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	<title>Comments on: Doherty on Slaughterhouse, Libertarian Centralism, and the Fourteenth Amendment</title>
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		<title>By: Dan Goodman</title>
		<link>http://www.stephankinsella.com/2009/12/02/doherty-on-slaughterhouse-libertarian-centralism-and-the-fourteenth-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-13866</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Goodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 05:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all,

    I am writing to inform you that the links I provided in Comment 1 no longer work.  The new locations for them are:

____________

FOOTNOTE


The Effects of the Fourteenth Amendment on the Constitution of the United States

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=327&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=327&lt;/a&gt;


Also,


A Look At Corfield (On Citizenship)

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=331&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=331&lt;/a&gt;


____________

    There is also the following which I think would be appropriate.  


Comment on Petitioner&#039;s Brief: &lt;i&gt;McDonald v. City of Chicago&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=category&amp;layout=blog&amp;id=91&amp;Itemid=126&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=category&amp;layout=blog&amp;id=91&amp;Itemid=126&lt;/a&gt;


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all,</p>
<p>    I am writing to inform you that the links I provided in Comment 1 no longer work.  The new locations for them are:</p>
<p>____________</p>
<p>FOOTNOTE</p>
<p>The Effects of the Fourteenth Amendment on the Constitution of the United States</p>
<p><a href="http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=327" rel="nofollow">http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=327</a></p>
<p>Also,</p>
<p>A Look At Corfield (On Citizenship)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=331" rel="nofollow">http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=331</a></p>
<p>____________</p>
<p>    There is also the following which I think would be appropriate.  </p>
<p>Comment on Petitioner&#8217;s Brief: <i>McDonald v. City of Chicago</i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=category&amp;layout=blog&amp;id=91&amp;Itemid=126" rel="nofollow">http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=category&amp;layout=blog&amp;id=91&amp;Itemid=126</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/136777" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/136777</a></p>
<p>____________</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Goodman</title>
		<link>http://www.stephankinsella.com/2009/12/02/doherty-on-slaughterhouse-libertarian-centralism-and-the-fourteenth-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-9516</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Goodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all,

I wish to state that the Supreme court, in the &lt;i&gt;Slaughterhouse Cases&lt;/i&gt;, held that because of the Fourteenth Amendment there were now two separate and distinct citizens under the Constitution of the United States; a citizen of the United States, under the Fourteenth Amendment and a citizen of the several States, under Article IV, Section 2, Clause 1 [FOOTNOTE]:

&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;“We think this distinction and its explicit recognition in this Amendment (the 14th Amendment) of great weight in this argument, because the next paragraph of this same section (first section, second clause), which is the one mainly relied on by the plaintiffs in error, &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;speaks only of privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States, and does not speak of those of citizens of the several states.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; The argument, however, in favor of the plaintiffs, rests wholly on the assumption that the citizenship is the same and the privileges and immunities guaranteed by the clause are the same.” 83 U.S. 36 (1873), page 74.

And:

&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;“In the Constitution of the United States, which superseded the Articles of Confederation, the corresponding provision is found in section two of the fourth article, in the following words: ‘The citizens of each State shall be entitled to all the privileges and immunities of citizens &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;OF&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; the several States.’ ” 83 U.S. 36 (1873), page 75.

The last was later reaffirmed in &lt;i&gt;Cole v. Cunningham&lt;/i&gt;:

&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;“The intention of section 2, Article IV (of the Constitution), was to confer on the &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;citizens of the several States&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; a general citizenship.” Cole v. Cunningham: 133 U.S. 107, 113-114 (1890).  

The privileges and immunities of citizens of the several states are those described by &lt;i&gt;Corfield&lt;/i&gt;, cited in the &lt;i&gt;Slaughterhouse Cases&lt;/i&gt;.  This is reaffirmed in &lt;i&gt;Hodges v. United States&lt;/i&gt;:

&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;“In the &lt;i&gt;Slaughter House Cases&lt;/i&gt;, 16 Wall. 36, 76, in defining the privileges and immunities of &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;citizens of the several States&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, this is quoted from the opinion of Mr. Justice Washington in &lt;i&gt;Corfield v. Coryell&lt;/i&gt;, 4 Wash. Cir. Ct. 371, 380.”  Hodges v. United States: 203 U.S. 1, at 15 (1906).

So there are now two citizens under the Constitution of the United States.  One needs to find out information on both.  For a citizen of the United States that is easy.  Just about anywhere.  For a citizen of the several States one will have to begin here:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://citizenoftheseveralstates.webs.com/index.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://citizenoftheseveralstates.webs.com/index.htm&lt;/a&gt;

____________


FOOTNOTE


The Effects of the Fourteenth Amendment on the Constitution of the United States

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.australia.to/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=15882&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.australia.to/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=15882&lt;/a&gt;


Also,


A Look At Corfield (On Citizenship)

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.australia.to/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=16868&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.australia.to/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=16868&lt;/a&gt;


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all,</p>
<p>I wish to state that the Supreme court, in the <i>Slaughterhouse Cases</i>, held that because of the Fourteenth Amendment there were now two separate and distinct citizens under the Constitution of the United States; a citizen of the United States, under the Fourteenth Amendment and a citizen of the several States, under Article IV, Section 2, Clause 1 [FOOTNOTE]:</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;“We think this distinction and its explicit recognition in this Amendment (the 14th Amendment) of great weight in this argument, because the next paragraph of this same section (first section, second clause), which is the one mainly relied on by the plaintiffs in error, <i><b>speaks only of privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States, and does not speak of those of citizens of the several states.</b></i> The argument, however, in favor of the plaintiffs, rests wholly on the assumption that the citizenship is the same and the privileges and immunities guaranteed by the clause are the same.” 83 U.S. 36 (1873), page 74.</p>
<p>And:</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;“In the Constitution of the United States, which superseded the Articles of Confederation, the corresponding provision is found in section two of the fourth article, in the following words: ‘The citizens of each State shall be entitled to all the privileges and immunities of citizens <i><b>OF</b></i> the several States.’ ” 83 U.S. 36 (1873), page 75.</p>
<p>The last was later reaffirmed in <i>Cole v. Cunningham</i>:</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;“The intention of section 2, Article IV (of the Constitution), was to confer on the <i><b>citizens of the several States</b></i> a general citizenship.” Cole v. Cunningham: 133 U.S. 107, 113-114 (1890).  </p>
<p>The privileges and immunities of citizens of the several states are those described by <i>Corfield</i>, cited in the <i>Slaughterhouse Cases</i>.  This is reaffirmed in <i>Hodges v. United States</i>:</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;“In the <i>Slaughter House Cases</i>, 16 Wall. 36, 76, in defining the privileges and immunities of <i><b>citizens of the several States</b></i>, this is quoted from the opinion of Mr. Justice Washington in <i>Corfield v. Coryell</i>, 4 Wash. Cir. Ct. 371, 380.”  Hodges v. United States: 203 U.S. 1, at 15 (1906).</p>
<p>So there are now two citizens under the Constitution of the United States.  One needs to find out information on both.  For a citizen of the United States that is easy.  Just about anywhere.  For a citizen of the several States one will have to begin here:</p>
<p><a href="http://citizenoftheseveralstates.webs.com/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://citizenoftheseveralstates.webs.com/index.htm</a></p>
<p>____________</p>
<p>FOOTNOTE</p>
<p>The Effects of the Fourteenth Amendment on the Constitution of the United States</p>
<p><a href="http://www.australia.to/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=15882" rel="nofollow">http://www.australia.to/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=15882</a></p>
<p>Also,</p>
<p>A Look At Corfield (On Citizenship)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.australia.to/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=16868" rel="nofollow">http://www.australia.to/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=16868</a></p>
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