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		<title>What Libertarianism Is: in Audio</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Kinsella</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[An audio version of my 2009 article, “What Libertarianism Is,” Mises Daily (August 21, 2009), has been produced, narrated by Graham Wright (audio file). &#160;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>An audio version of my 2009 article, “<a href="http://mises.org/story/3660">What Libertarianism Is</a>,” <em>Mises Daily</em> (August 21, 2009), has been produced, narrated by Graham Wright (<a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/media/kinsella-what%20libertarianism%20is-audio.mp3">audio file</a>).</p>
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		<title>FreeTalkLive/XM Extreme Talk Appearance re Intellectual Property</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 11:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Kinsella</dc:creator>
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		<title>Education Today and Tomorrow: Interview about Montessori with AMI President</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 14:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve discussed my thoughts on the Montessori educational method previously (see my article Montessori, Peace, and Libertarianism; also my posts Montessori and “Unschooling”; Bullying and Libertarianism; Libertarian Parenting–A Freedomain Radio Conversation). Last week the excellent KERA radio program &#8220;Think&#8221; had a great interview with André Roberfroid, President of Association Montessori Internationale, about the Montessori method: [...]]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve discussed my thoughts on the Montessori educational method previously (see my article <a title="Permanent link to Montessori, Peace, and Libertarianism" href="../2011/04/montessori-peace-and-libertarianism/" rel="bookmark">Montessori, Peace, and Libertarianism</a><abbr title="2011-02-01">; also my posts </abbr><a title="Permanent link to Montessori and “Unschooling”" href="../2010/10/montessori-and-unschooling/" rel="bookmark">Montessori and “Unschooling”</a><abbr>; </abbr><a title="Permanent link to Bullying and Libertarianism" href="../2010/09/bullying-and-libertarianism/" rel="bookmark">Bullying and Libertarianism</a>; <a title="Permanent link to Libertarian Parenting–A Freedomain Radio Conversation" href="../2010/07/libertarian-parenting-a-freedomain-radio-conversation/" rel="bookmark">Libertarian Parenting–A Freedomain Radio Conversation</a>). Last week the excellent KERA radio program &#8220;<a href="http://www.kera.org/podcasts/think/">Think</a>&#8221; had a great interview with André Roberfroid, President of Association Montessori Internationale, about the Montessori method: &#8220;<a href="http://www.kera.org/2011/08/11/education-today-and-tomorrow/">Education Today and Tomorrow</a>.&#8221; He does a good job of explaining the beauty and benefits of the Montessori approach (though he does have some confused notions about expanding the public school sector; these confused political views, it seems to me, are orthogonal to his educational ideas, and can be ignored). The interview is <a href="http://podcastdownload.npr.org/anon.npr-podcasts/podcast/77/510036/139558676/KERA_139558676.mp3">here</a>; and the podcast can be found on iTunes <a href="http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/kera-unlimited-keras-think/id121493643">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Associate&#8217;s Foulmouthed Voicemail Makes the Rounds on the Internet and other funny stories</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some humorous emails from my legal blog: Professional Courtesy Associate’s Foulmouthed Voicemail Makes the Rounds on the Internet Re: Associate’s Foulmouthed Voicemail Makes the Rounds on the Internet More on humorous voicemails Lawyers and Summer Associates Cold Callers Professional Courtesy by Norman S. Kinsella on August 20, 2004 According to the attorney who sent it [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Some humorous emails from my legal blog:</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.kinsellalaw.com/2004/08/27/more-on-humorous-voicemails/">Professional Courtesy</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.kinsellalaw.com/2004/08/24/associates-foulmouthed-voicemail-makes-the-rounds-on-the-internet/">Associate’s Foulmouthed Voicemail Makes the Rounds on the Internet</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.kinsellalaw.com/2004/08/25/re-associates-foulmouthed-voicemail-makes-the-rounds-on-the-internet/">Re: Associate’s Foulmouthed Voicemail Makes the Rounds on the Internet</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.kinsellalaw.com/2004/08/27/more-on-humorous-voicemails/">More on humorous voicemails</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.kinsellalaw.com/2004/08/25/re-associates-foulmouthed-voicemail-makes-the-rounds-on-the-internet/">Lawyers and Summer Associates</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.kinsellalaw.com/200%E2%80%8B4/12/02/cold-callers/">Cold Callers</a></li>
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<h1>Professional Courtesy</h1>
<p>by Norman S. Kinsella on <abbr title="2004-08-20">August 20, 2004</abbr></p>
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<p>According to the attorney who sent it to me: this was a <a href="http://www.kinsellalaw.com/wp-content/uploads/audio/VoiceMessage.wav">voicemail message</a> “that an associate at Winston &amp; Strawn left for an associate at Latham. Latham is representing a borrower in a real estate transaction and W&amp;S; represents the lender. I don’t know what correspondence preceded the voicemail but as I understand it, W&amp;S; asked Latham to make some cosmetic changes to mortgages a day before closing and Latham responded by email that they thought the changes were unnecessary. The response from W&amp;S; is pretty unbelievable–a pretty abusive voicemail. This is soon to be part of law firm urban legend along with that <a href="http://www.nylawyer.com/news/03/06/062003b.html" class="broken_link">summer associate from Skadden</a> [I earlier guessed--wrongly--that they meant here Tucker Max's story, <a href="http://www.tuckermax.com/charityauction.html" class="broken_link">The true story behind "The Now Infamous Tucker Max Charity Auction Debacle" email</a> --SK]–it’s already making it’s way around the email circuit. Enjoy!”</p>
<p>And along those lines, an oldie but a goodie: <a href="http://www.kinsellalaw.com/ip/TTAB_voicemail.wav" class="broken_link">Voicemail message</a>, with increasingly frustrated obscenities, purportedly left by trademark applicant/appellant with the <a href="http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/dcom/ttab/">Trademark Trial and Appeal Board (TTAB)</a>; resulting <a href="http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/sol/foia/oed/disc/tassan_bruce_a.pdf" class="broken_link">Final Order</a> concerning disclipinary action of the attorney (linked <a href="http://www.kinsellalaw.com/ip/index.php#wacky">here</a>).</p>
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<h1>Associate’s Foulmouthed Voicemail Makes the Rounds on the Internet</h1>
<p>by Norman S. Kinsella on <abbr title="2004-08-24">August 24, 2004</abbr></p>
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<p>Re this <a href="http://www.kinsellalaw.com/archive/2004_08_01_archive.php#109303917035420967" class="broken_link">post</a>–this <a href="http://www.nylawyer.com/news/04/08/082404d.html" class="broken_link">article</a> appeared today in New York Lawyer, listing my blog as a source of the voicemail left by Winston &amp; Strawn associate <a href="http://www.winston.com/attprof.nsf/vSearchFrames/JGRO-3VXSC2" class="broken_link">Ankur Gupta</a> [voicemail <a href="http://www.kinsellalaw.com/wp-content/uploads/audio/VoiceMessage.wav">here</a>]. I despise incompetence so actually tend to side with Gupta.</p>
<p>Some excerpts from the article:</p>
<blockquote><p>An expletive-laden <a href="http://www.nylawyer.com/news/04/08/voice-mail%20message" target=" " class="broken_link">voice-mail message</a>, reproduced on blog <a href="http://www.kinsellalaw.com/" target=" ">KinsellaLaw.com</a>, left by an associate at one law firm for a colleague at another is making the rounds in cyberspace, with young lawyers seizing on the message as a symbol of declining civility within the profession.</p>
<p>In the message, Winston &amp; Strawn associate Ankur Gupta in Chicago berates an associate in the New York office of Latham &amp; Watkins for apparently complaining about changes Mr. Gupta and his colleagues requested on a mortgage document. Mr. Gupta tells his fellow lawyer that he should save his “[f**king] breath” and that if he continues to complain about the changes, Mr. Gupta will make his “life on this deal very unpleasant” by involving his client. The Winston &amp; Strawn associate concludes by advising the Latham associate that if he will not act as a “monkey [f**king] scribe,” his work will be given to a secretary at Winston &amp; Strawn.</p>
<p>Forwarded to lawyers across the nation, the message has unleashed a firestorm of Internet message board commentary.</p></blockquote>
<p>In my view, all this noise about “the decline in civility” is part and parcel of lawyers’ attempt to keep their profession licensed so as to keep out competition. It is arrogance to believe civility is more the domain of attorneys than “normal” people.<span id="more-6782"></span></p>
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<h1>Re: Associate’s Foulmouthed Voicemail Makes the Rounds on the Internet</h1>
<p>by Norman S. Kinsella on <abbr title="2004-08-25">August 25, 2004</abbr></p>
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<p>Re my <a href="http://www.kinsellalaw.com/2004/08/24/associates-foulmouthed-voicemail-makes-the-rounds-on-the-internet/">previous post</a>, <em>Chicago Sun-Times</em> reporter Eric Herman has picked this up story and is running with it, in <a href="http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-law25.html">F-bomb-dropping attorney gets worldwide notoriety</a> [<a href="http://forum.dvdrbase.info/just-laughs/40827-f-bomb-dropping-attorney-gets-worldwide-notoriety.html">alternative link</a>].</p>
<p>Coda: others have picked it up too, including this one from <em>The Chicagoist</em>, <a href="http://www.chicagoist.com/archives/2004/08/26/lawyers_drop_fbombs.php">Lawyers Drop F-Bombs?</a>, which includes some decent gossip about the “victim” and interestingly, some off the cuff defenses of the angry attorney. Another discussion forum is on <a href="http://myshingle.com/article.pl?sid=04/08/26/0037201&amp;mode=thread" class="broken_link">MyShingle</a>.</p>
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<h1>Lawyers and Summer Associates</h1>
<p>by Norman S. Kinsella on <abbr title="2004-08-25">August 25, 2004</abbr></p>
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<p>Re <a href="http://www.kinsellalaw.com/2004/08/25/re-associates-foulmouthed-voicemail-makes-the-rounds-on-the-internet/">recent</a> <a href="http://www.kinsellalaw.com/2004/08/24/associates-foulmouthed-voicemail-makes-the-rounds-on-the-internet/">posts</a> about humorous lawyer voicemails, I was reminded of this story: <a href="http://www.nylawyer.com/news/03/06/062003b.html" class="broken_link">Elite Firm Summer Associate Sends E-Mail Boasting Of Laziness to Partners</a> [registration required].</p>
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<h1>More on humorous voicemails</h1>
<p>by Norman S. Kinsella on <abbr title="2004-08-27">August 27, 2004</abbr></p>
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<p>Following up on recent posts about <a href="http://www.kinsellalaw.com/2004/08/25/re-associates-foulmouthed-voicemail-makes-the-rounds-on-the-internet/">humorous voicemails</a> and <a href="http://www.kinsellalaw.com/2004/08/25/lawyers-and-summer-associates/">emails</a>, here’s another <a href="http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/demotivators/closeencounter.wav">humorous voicemail</a>. The story behind the voicemail is explained <a href="http://www.despair.com/frownies.html">here</a>, and in the letter below.</p>
<blockquote><p>Mr. Kinsella:</p>
<p>I stumbled over this website courtesy of an article about the</p>
<p>recent humorous voicemail and couldn’t resist writing you to share something amusing that happened to our company.</p>
<p>Our Austin-based company, Despair Inc., produces cynical humor products- including parodies of motivational posters</p>
<p>called Demotivators.</p>
<p>Anyway, our logo features the <img src="http://www.kinsellalaw.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif" alt=":-(" /> emoticon–which we</p>
<p>obviously did not invent but nevertheless submitted a trademark request for to the USPTO.</p>
<p>To our surprise (and our IP lawyer’s amazement), we received a</p>
<p>trademark for the symbol in printed matter class of goods.</p>
<p>As a joke, we wrote a fake press release about how–in light of our trademark on the <img src="http://www.kinsellalaw.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif" alt=":-(" /> symbol–we planned to sue several million individuals who had used the symbol in email of late.</p>
<p>It was mostly meant as a rip on frivolous IP lawsuits. But</p>
<p>because of some clumsy reporting and overzealous netizens, it ended up becoming a gigantic outrage to many thousands of people who missed the joke.</p>
<p>The most amusing contact we received came in the form of a late-night voicemail from someone who sounded very drunk.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.despair.com/frownies.html">http://www.despair.com/frownies.html</a> The voicemail is linked in the page above. It is expletive-laden and frequently incoherent–but provoked gales of laughter and ultimately, the desire to share the joke with others.</p>
<p>We bleeped out the expletives–as we’re a pretty family-friendly</p>
<p>website–but even without them, it’s a very amusing and</p>
<p>confusing listen, though admittedly, for a somewhat select audience.</p>
<p>Hope you enjoy it.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Justin Sewell</p>
<p>Despair, Inc.</p>
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<h1>Cold Callers</h1>
<p>by Norman S. Kinsella on <abbr title="2004-12-02">December 2, 2004</abbr></p>
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<p>I hate cold callers and people who waste my time. My employer’s web site does not list my phone number. That’s on purpose. People whom I have not given my direct dial number have to call the main number and ask the receptionist for me. So when the receptionist wants to patch a call through, I know it’s almost always a cold caller.</p>
<p>Today she says a guy named “Mo” is calling for me. Red flag#1. I know no Mo, so red flag #2. Usually I tell her to put them to my voicemail, but the name “Mo” intrigued me and I was feeling in a mood to mess with a cold coller. I tell her to patch him through.</p>
<p>Mo–he does not give his last name, red flag #3–is some broker for some “patent technology acquisition” group (I forget the name). He wants to know if we have an interest in buying a patent on photonic integrated circuits. Now we make lasers, not PICs. Another red flag.</p>
<p>Curious, I ask him how much they are selling the patent for. He says it has 61 claims and that there is an offer on it already–setting me up for a high number–then says probably only $120K or so, which is not really that high.</p>
<p>I say, well, what’s the patent number? He says he does not have it and I can hear him flipping papers looking for it. He asks me if that’s public information. I.e., if he can find the number is it okay to give it to me. This loser i s asking me for legal advice. So I’m already getting irritated. Why would you call someone to offer to sell a patent but not know the patent number. So it’s clear to me that Arab-accented Mo (probably Mohammed) is just trying to put a deal together. Some stupid broker. Probably unknown to the seller as well as me.</p>
<p>My time already wasted, I decide to eff with him. I ask him why he thinks this would be useful for us. He says he knows we bought an external-cavity laser patent <a href="http://www.ao-inc.com/news/archive/Micron%20Patent.pdf" class="broken_link">recently</a>, so thought we might want this. This makes no sense. I ask, is there an existing infringer? Do we infringe? Does it cover some practical invention?</p>
<p>He says yes, it covers a practical application and can “help us.” I say, “help us how? We make lasers.” He says, “yeah, it does that.”</p>
<p>“Does what?” I ask. “Makes lasers,” he replies.</p>
<p>“I don’t think so,” I say. “How does an integrated circuit make a laser?”</p>
<p>“Well, the laser goes in it,” he tries to clarify. I say, “I don’t think you understand this technology. That’s okay if you don’t, but just say so.” He gets pissed saying, his Arab accent getting thicker, “You are being rude sir. I have an engineering degree from CalTech and have been in this field for 25 years!” I say, “Well, a photonic integrated circuit does not make lasers, I know that,” and he says, “I went to CalTech” and I reply, “Well, that’s certainly very impressive, but you don’t know the patent number, you don’t know how this applies to our business, you seem to think PICs ‘make’ lasers, which they don’t–all you seem to know is we make lasers and recently bought a laser patent.” He finally loses his patience, and proclaims, “You are rude sir! Rude rude rude! You are a f***ing a**hole!”</p>
<p>Well, at least I didn’t call him to waste his time.</p>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Some humorous emails from my legal blog:  Professional Courtesy   Associate’s Foulmouthed Voicemail Makes the Rounds on the Internet   Re: Associate’s Foulmouthed Voicemail Makes the Rounds on the Internet   More on humorous voicemails </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Some humorous emails from my legal blog:

	Professional Courtesy
	Associate’s Foulmouthed Voicemail Makes the Rounds on the Internet
	Re: Associate’s Foulmouthed Voicemail Makes the Rounds on the Internet
	More on humorous voicemails
	Lawyers and Summer Associates
	Cold Callers



Professional Courtesy
by Norman S. Kinsella on August 20, 2004




According to the attorney who sent it to me: this was a voicemail message “that an associate at Winston &amp; Strawn left for an associate at Latham. Latham is representing a borrower in a real estate transaction and W&amp;S; represents the lender. I don’t know what correspondence preceded the voicemail but as I understand it, W&amp;S; asked Latham to make some cosmetic changes to mortgages a day before closing and Latham responded by email that they thought the changes were unnecessary. The response from W&amp;S; is pretty unbelievable–a pretty abusive voicemail. This is soon to be part of law firm urban legend along with that summer associate from Skadden [I earlier guessed--wrongly--that they meant here Tucker Max&#039;s story, The true story behind &quot;The Now Infamous Tucker Max Charity Auction Debacle&quot; email --SK]–it’s already making it’s way around the email circuit. Enjoy!”

And along those lines, an oldie but a goodie: Voicemail message, with increasingly frustrated obscenities, purportedly left by trademark applicant/appellant with the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board (TTAB); resulting Final Order concerning disclipinary action of the attorney (linked here).

Associate’s Foulmouthed Voicemail Makes the Rounds on the Internet
by Norman S. Kinsella on August 24, 2004


Re this post–this article appeared today in New York Lawyer, listing my blog as a source of the voicemail left by Winston &amp; Strawn associate Ankur Gupta [voicemail here]. I despise incompetence so actually tend to side with Gupta.

Some excerpts from the article:
An expletive-laden voice-mail message, reproduced on blog KinsellaLaw.com, left by an associate at one law firm for a colleague at another is making the rounds in cyberspace, with young lawyers seizing on the message as a symbol of declining civility within the profession.

In the message, Winston &amp; Strawn associate Ankur Gupta in Chicago berates an associate in the New York office of Latham &amp; Watkins for apparently complaining about changes Mr. Gupta and his colleagues requested on a mortgage document. Mr. Gupta tells his fellow lawyer that he should save his “[f**king] breath” and that if he continues to complain about the changes, Mr. Gupta will make his “life on this deal very unpleasant” by involving his client. The Winston &amp; Strawn associate concludes by advising the Latham associate that if he will not act as a “monkey [f**king] scribe,” his work will be given to a secretary at Winston &amp; Strawn.

Forwarded to lawyers across the nation, the message has unleashed a firestorm of Internet message board commentary.
In my view, all this noise about “the decline in civility” is part and parcel of lawyers’ attempt to keep their profession licensed so as to keep out competition. It is arrogance to believe civility is more the domain of attorneys than “normal” people.


Re: Associate’s Foulmouthed Voicemail Makes the Rounds on the Internet
by Norman S. Kinsella on August 25, 2004




Re my previous post, Chicago Sun-Times reporter Eric Herman has picked this up story and is running with it, in F-bomb-dropping attorney gets worldwide notoriety [alternative link].

Coda: others have picked it up too, including this one from The Chicagoist, Lawyers Drop F-Bombs?, which includes some decent gossip about the “victim” and interestingly, some off the cuff defenses of the angry attorney. Another discussion forum is on MyShingle.


Lawyers and Summer Associates
by Norman S. Kinsella on August 25, 2004




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		<description><![CDATA[For reasons why, see my post Happy We-Should-Restore-The-Monarchy-And-Rejoin-Britain Day!. See also my related posts: Goodbye 1776, 1789, Tom Would YOU sign the Declaration of Independence? Richman on the 4th of July and American Independence On Constitutional Sentimentalism Bill Marina (R.I.P.) on American Imperialism from the Beginning Re ‘Untold Truths About the American Revolution’ Jeff Hummel’s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>For reasons why, see my post <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/010218.asp">Happy We-Should-Restore-The-Monarchy-And-Rejoin-Britain Day!</a>.</p>
<p>See also my related posts:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/028614.html">Goodbye 1776, 1789, Tom</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/026183.html">Would YOU sign the Declaration of Independence?</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/2009/07/richman-on-the-4th-of-july-and-american-independence/">Richman on the 4th of July and American Independence</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent link to On Constitutional Sentimentalism" rel="bookmark" href="../2011/01/on-constitutional-sentimentalism/">On Constitutional Sentimentalism</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent link to Bill Marina (R.I.P.) on American Imperialism from the Beginning" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/07/bill-marina-r-i-p-on-american-imperialism-from-the-beginning/">Bill Marina (R.I.P.) on American Imperialism from the Beginning</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent link to Re ‘Untold Truths About the American Revolution’" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/07/re-%e2%80%98untold-truths-about-the-american-revolution%e2%80%99/">Re ‘Untold Truths About the American Revolution’</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent link to Jeff Hummel’s “The Constitution as a Counter-Revolution”" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/07/jeff-hummels-the-constitution-as-a-counter-revolution/">Jeff Hummel’s “The Constitution as a Counter-Revolution”</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/029145.html">Untold Truths About the American Revolution’</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/028819.html">The Murdering, Thieving, Enslaving, Unlibertarian Continental Army</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/31713.html">Rockwell on Hoppe on the Constitution as Expansion of Government Power </a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/2010/09/17/black-armbands-for-constitution-day/">Black Armbands for “Constitution Day”</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent Link to The Bad Bill of Rights" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/6862.html">The Bad Bill of Rights</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent Link: Napolitano on Health-Care Reform and the Constitution: Is the Commerce Clause Really Limited?" rel="bookmark" href="../2011/01/2009/09/napolitano-on-health-care-reform-and-the-constitution/">Napolitano on Health-Care Reform and the Constitution: Is the Commerce Clause Really Limited?<abbr title="3.000000 is the YARPP match score between the current entry and this related entry. You are seeing this value because you are logged in to WordPress as an administrator. It is not shown to regular visitors."></abbr></a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/2010/04/14/was-the-american-revolution-really-about-taxes/">Was the American Revolution Really about Taxes?</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent Link to Re: Happy Bill of Rights Day — The Problem with the Fourteenth Amendment" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/6854.html">Re: Happy Bill of Rights Day — The Problem with the Fourteenth Amendment</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent Link to Revising the American Revolution" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/029056.html">Revising    the American Revolution</a></li>
<li><a href="../2011/01/2009/07/09/the-declaration-and-conscription/">The   Declaration and Conscription</a></li>
<li><a href="../2011/01/2009/07/07/untold-truths-about-the-american-revolution/">‘Untold   Truths About the American Revolution’</a>.</li>
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<p>See also:</p>
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<li> <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/attarian/attarian9.html">Hurrah for King George!</a>, by John Attarian;</li>
<li>Lew Rockwell, <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/enemy-always-thestate.html">The Enemy Is Always the State</a></li>
<li>Sheldon Richman, <a href="http://fee.org/media/the-articles-of-confederation-versus-the-constitution-2/">The Articles of Confederation Versus the Constitution</a></li>
<li>John Hasnas, <a href="http://faculty.msb.edu/hasnasj/GTWebSite/MythWeb.htm">The Myth of the Rule of Law</a></li>
<li>Jeffrey Rogers Hummel, The Constitution as Counter-Revolution (<a href="http://www.fee.org/Audio/YSC/FINAL%20YSC%20-%20Jeffrey%20Rogers%20Hummel%20-%20The%20Constitution%20as%20Counter-Revolution.mp3">mp3</a>; <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.la-articles.org.uk/FL-5-4-3.pdf">pdf</a>)</li>
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		<itunes:summary>For reasons why, see my post Happy We-Should-Restore-The-Monarchy-And-Rejoin-Britain Day!.

See also my related posts:

	Goodbye 1776, 1789, Tom
	Would YOU sign the Declaration of Independence?
	Richman on the 4th of July and American Independence
	On Constitutional Sentimentalism
	Bill Marina (R.I.P.) on American Imperialism from the Beginning
	Re ‘Untold Truths About the American Revolution’
	Jeff Hummel’s “The Constitution as a Counter-Revolution”
	Untold Truths About the American Revolution’
	The Murdering, Thieving, Enslaving, Unlibertarian Continental Army
	Rockwell on Hoppe on the Constitution as Expansion of Government Power 
	Black Armbands for “Constitution Day”
	The Bad Bill of Rights
	Napolitano on Health-Care Reform and the Constitution: Is the Commerce Clause Really Limited?
	Was the American Revolution Really about Taxes?
	Re: Happy Bill of Rights Day — The Problem with the Fourteenth Amendment
	Revising    the American Revolution
	The   Declaration and Conscription
	‘Untold   Truths About the American Revolution’.

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	 Hurrah for King George!, by John Attarian;
	Lew Rockwell, The Enemy Is Always the State
	Sheldon Richman, The Articles of Confederation Versus the Constitution
	John Hasnas, The Myth of the Rule of Law
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week I participated in a debate on IP at the The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law Student Chapter of The Federalist Society (Moritz College of Law, Ohio State University, Columbus OH, March 3, 2011). This was part of the &#8220;John Templeton Foundation’s Big Questions Debate series on Intellectual Property and Wealth Creation”; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/kinsella-ohio-state-debate-2011.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-6511" title="kinsella-ohio-state-debate-2011" src="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/kinsella-ohio-state-debate-2011.jpg" alt="" width="247" height="328" /></a>Last week I participated in a debate on IP at the <a href="http://www.fed-soc.org/chapters/cid.203,id.299/default.asp">The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law Student Chapter of The Federalist Society</a> (<a href="http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/">Moritz College of Law</a>, Ohio State University, Columbus OH, March 3, 2011). This was part of the &#8220;John Templeton Foundation’s Big Questions Debate series on Intellectual Property and Wealth Creation”; I debated patent attorney and adjunct IP law professor <a href="http://www.standleyllp.com/meet/stephen-l-grant/">Steve Grant</a>, who represented the pro-IP side. I recorded it on my iPhone; audio file is <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/media/kinsella-federalist-society-ip-debate-2011-03.mp3">here</a> (32MB; the version from the camera&#8217;s recording is <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/media/kinsella-federalist-society-ip-debate-2011-03b.mp3">here</a>), though a video version with possibly better audio should be available soon. Professor Grant did his best, but didn&#8217;t have a solid argument for IP other than the standard &#8220;I think we should reform IP but not get rid of it.&#8221; My opening speech is about 15 minutes and has decent audio quality, and is a summary of a hard-hitting version of the basic libertarian case against IP law (<a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/The-problem-with-IP-Ohio-State-Federalist-Society-IP-Debate-2011-03-03.ppt">here is the powerpoint presentation</a> I used; embedded version below). Grant&#8217;s speech is audible but I was not very close to him; but his conventional and unsystematic, more empiricist and positivist than libertarian and principled remarks will be of only mild interest to libertarians. For my 10 or so minute rebuttal to him, I left my iPhone at the table but it&#8217;s still audible; for the Q&amp;A period, it was in front of me so it&#8217;s decent again for that part. My host was Aman Sharma, a very staunch libertarian law student and head of the student chapter of the Federalist Society. When I was involved with the Federalist Society (lawyers chapters) in Philadelphia and Houston they were populated with mainly Newt Gingrich loving neocons; good to see some Austro-libertarians infiltrating their ranks. Sharma told me &#8220;I had a lot of fellow students approach me after the event with questions showing a new-found interest in the Mises/Austrian worldview.&#8221; That is cool and gratifying.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/huebert-barrios-tapas.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-6512" title="huebert-barrios-tapas" src="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/huebert-barrios-tapas.jpg" alt="" width="337" height="252" /></a>While in Ohio, I met my friend <a href="http://jhhuebert.com/">Jacob Huebert</a> and other local libertarians/Federalist Society people&#8211;including Katelyn Horn and Maurice Thompson, of the <a href="http://www.ohioconstitution.org/about-us/about-2/">1851 Center</a>, for dinner at <a href="http://www.barriotapas.com/">Barrio Tapas</a>. A fun trip, and great people.</p>
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		<itunes:summary>Last week I participated in a debate on IP at the The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law Student Chapter of The Federalist Society (Moritz College of Law, Ohio State University, Columbus OH, March 3, 2011). This was part of the &quot;John Templeton Foundation’s Big Questions Debate series on Intellectual Property and Wealth Creation”; I debated patent attorney and adjunct IP law professor Steve Grant, who represented the pro-IP side. I recorded it on my iPhone; audio file is here (32MB; the version from the camera&#039;s recording is here), though a video version with possibly better audio should be available soon. Professor Grant did his best, but didn&#039;t have a solid argument for IP other than the standard &quot;I think we should reform IP but not get rid of it.&quot; My opening speech is about 15 minutes and has decent audio quality, and is a summary of a hard-hitting version of the basic libertarian case against IP law (here is the powerpoint presentation I used; embedded version below). Grant&#039;s speech is audible but I was not very close to him; but his conventional and unsystematic, more empiricist and positivist than libertarian and principled remarks will be of only mild interest to libertarians. For my 10 or so minute rebuttal to him, I left my iPhone at the table but it&#039;s still audible; for the Q&amp;A period, it was in front of me so it&#039;s decent again for that part. My host was Aman Sharma, a very staunch libertarian law student and head of the student chapter of the Federalist Society. When I was involved with the Federalist Society (lawyers chapters) in Philadelphia and Houston they were populated with mainly Newt Gingrich loving neocons; good to see some Austro-libertarians infiltrating their ranks. Sharma told me &quot;I had a lot of fellow students approach me after the event with questions showing a new-found interest in the Mises/Austrian worldview.&quot; That is cool and gratifying.

 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>I was a guest on the <a href="http://thinkingliberty.net/2011-02-15/">Feb. 15, 2011 episode</a> of Thinking Liberty, &#8220;an interactive libertarian anarchist talk program.&#8221; We talked for quite a while about IP; the hosts asked very intelligent questions. (My segment is from about 25:00 to 1:16:00.) (<a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/media/thinking-liberty-ip-2011-02-15.mp3">local MP3 file</a>)</p>
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			<itunes:subtitle>I was a guest on the Feb. 15, 2011 episode of Thinking Liberty, &quot;an interactive libertarian anarchist talk program.&quot; We talked for quite a while about IP; the hosts asked very intelligent questions. (My segment is from about 25:00 to 1:16:00.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>I was a guest on the Feb. 15, 2011 episode of Thinking Liberty, &quot;an interactive libertarian anarchist talk program.&quot; We talked for quite a while about IP; the hosts asked very intelligent questions. (My segment is from about 25:00 to 1:16:00.) (local MP3 file)</itunes:summary>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Kinsella</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>ignroe me.<br />
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			<itunes:subtitle>ignroe me. her is  file</itunes:subtitle>
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		<title>Kinsella: &#8220;Intellectual Freedom and Learning Versus Patent and Copyright&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Kinsella</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Intellectual Property]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[My article, &#8220;Intellectual Freedom and Learning Versus Patent and Copyright,&#8221; was published today in Economic Notes (No. 113, Jan. 18, 2011), a publication of the UK-based Libertarian Alliance. (This article is based on my speech of Nov. 6, 2010, at the 2010 Students for Liberty Texas Regional Conference, University of Texas, Austin; audio and video [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>My article, &#8220;<a href="http://libertarianalliance.wordpress.com/2011/01/18/stephan-kinsella-on-intellectual-property/">Intellectual Freedom and Learning Versus Patent and Copyright</a>,&#8221; was published today in <em><a href="http://www.libertarian.co.uk/">Economic Notes</a></em> (No. 113, Jan. 18, 2011), a publication of the UK-based Libertarian Alliance. (This article is based on my speech of Nov. 6,  2010, at  the 2010  Students for Liberty Texas Regional Conference,  University of  Texas,  Austin; <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/media/Intellectual%20Freedom%20and%20Learning%20versus%20Patent%20and%20Copyright.mp3">audio</a> and video versions may be found <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/2010/12/intellectual-freedom-and-learning-versus-patent-and-copyright/">here</a>; see also below.)</p>
<p><a href="http://academy.mises.org/courses/libertarian-legal-theory/"><img class="alignright" src="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/MAA_Kinsella_LegalTheory2011.jpg" alt="Mises Academy: Stephan Kinsella teaches Libertarian Legal Theory" width="200" height="300" /></a>In my various publications and speeches <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/publications/#IP">about intellectual property</a> (IP), I&#8217;ve approached it from a variety of angles. In this article, I consider the role of information and learning, and the role of property rights, in human action. I use a praxeological analysis to argue that human action employs scarce resources or means, but that action is <em>guided by</em> non-scarce ideas and knowledge. Property rights are recognized in means <em>because</em> they are scarce; but ideas  are not scarce things: they are infinitely reproducible.  The growing body of  knowledge is a boon to mankind. Property rights is needed for scarce means so that they can be peacefully and productively used in action; property rights in ideas restricts, impairs, and impedes <em>learning</em> and the use of information to guide one&#8217;s actions. Copying information and ideas is not  stealing.  Learning is not stealing.  Using information is not trespass. In this article, I urge young libertarians to stay on the vanguard of intellectual freedom, and to fight  the shackles of patent and copyright.</p>
<p>Incidentally, my 6-week <a href="http://academy.mises.org/">Mises Academy</a> course “<a href="http://academy.mises.org/courses/libertarian-legal-theory/">Libertarian Legal Theory: Property, Conflict, and Society</a>” starts at the end of this month (Jan. 31-Mar. 11, 2011). I describe it in my article “<a href="http://mises.org/daily/4931">Introduction to Libertarian Legal Theory</a>,” <em>Mises Daily</em> (Jan. 3, 2011).</p>
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			<itunes:subtitle>My article, &quot;Intellectual Freedom and Learning Versus Patent and Copyright,&quot; was published today in Economic Notes (No. 113, Jan. 18, 2011), a publication of the UK-based Libertarian Alliance. (This article is based on my speech of Nov. 6,  2010,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>My article, &quot;Intellectual Freedom and Learning Versus Patent and Copyright,&quot; was published today in Economic Notes (No. 113, Jan. 18, 2011), a publication of the UK-based Libertarian Alliance. (This article is based on my speech of Nov. 6,  2010, at  the 2010  Students for Liberty Texas Regional Conference,  University of  Texas,  Austin; audio and video versions may be found here; see also below.)

In my various publications and speeches about intellectual property (IP), I&#039;ve approached it from a variety of angles. In this article, I consider the role of information and learning, and the role of property rights, in human action. I use a praxeological analysis to argue that human action employs scarce resources or means, but that action is guided by non-scarce ideas and knowledge. Property rights are recognized in means because they are scarce; but ideas  are not scarce things: they are infinitely reproducible.  The growing body of  knowledge is a boon to mankind. Property rights is needed for scarce means so that they can be peacefully and productively used in action; property rights in ideas restricts, impairs, and impedes learning and the use of information to guide one&#039;s actions. Copying information and ideas is not  stealing.  Learning is not stealing.  Using information is not trespass. In this article, I urge young libertarians to stay on the vanguard of intellectual freedom, and to fight  the shackles of patent and copyright.

Incidentally, my 6-week Mises Academy course “Libertarian Legal Theory: Property, Conflict, and Society” starts at the end of this month (Jan. 31-Mar. 11, 2011). I describe it in my article “Introduction to Libertarian Legal Theory,” Mises Daily (Jan. 3, 2011).





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		<title>On Constitutional Sentimentalism</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Kinsella</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a comment to his post on Sarah Palin, Sheldon Richman writes: I don&#8217;t see that it&#8217;s obvious that the Supreme Court has been dishonest about the Constitution. It was written as a deliberately vague document designed to satisfy multiple interests. It&#8217;s very much an inkblot. Madison said it contained &#8220;few and defined&#8221; powers, yet [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>In a <a href="http://sheldonfreeassociation.blogspot.com/2008/08/sarah-palin.html?showComment=1220183880000#c3049743492629346432">comment</a> to his post on <a href="http://sheldonfreeassociation.blogspot.com/2008/08/sarah-palin.html">Sarah Palin</a>, Sheldon Richman writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t see that it&#8217;s obvious that the Supreme Court has been dishonest about the Constitution. It was written as a deliberately vague document designed to satisfy multiple interests. It&#8217;s very much an inkblot. Madison said it contained &#8220;few and defined&#8221; powers, yet he also endorsed the doctrine of implied powers. Let&#8217;s get real. The Constitution was the result of a virtual coup intended to overthrow the Articles of Confederation. The feeling among the movers in Philadelphia was that there was too little central government, not too much; too little protectionism, not too much. I don&#8217;t understand the constitutional sentimentalism among some libertarians. As Spooner said, the Constitution either authorized the government we have or was powerless to prevent it. Constitutions don&#8217;t interpret or enforce themselves. People do, thus the rule of law is always the rule of men. Protection of freedom will not come from constitutions or &#8220;limited&#8221; Leviathans but from competition.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is a really good point. For other good material on this point, see:</p>
<ul>
<li>Sheldon Richman, <a href="http://fee.org/media/the-articles-of-confederation-versus-the-constitution-2/">The Articles of Confederation Versus the Constitution</a></li>
<li>John Hasnas, <a href="http://faculty.msb.edu/hasnasj/GTWebSite/MythWeb.htm">The Myth of the Rule of Law</a></li>
<li>Jeffrey Rogers Hummel, The Constitution as Counter-Revolution (<a href="http://www.fee.org/Audio/YSC/FINAL%20YSC%20-%20Jeffrey%20Rogers%20Hummel%20-%20The%20Constitution%20as%20Counter-Revolution.mp3">mp3</a>; <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.la-articles.org.uk/FL-5-4-3.pdf">pdf</a>)</li>
<li>Kinsella, <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/31713.html">Rockwell on Hoppe on the Constitution as Expansion of Government Power </a></li>
<li>Lew Rockwell, <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/hoppe-effect127.html">The Hoppe Effect</a></li>
<li>Rockwell, <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/enemy-always-thestate.html">The Enemy Is Always the State</a></li>
<li>Kinsella, <a href="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/2010/09/17/black-armbands-for-constitution-day/">Black Armbands for “Constitution Day”</a></li>
<li>Kinsella, <a title="Permanent Link to The Bad Bill of Rights" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/6862.html">The Bad Bill of Rights</a>, <a href="../2009/06/29/goodbye-1776-1789-tom/">Goodbye 1776, 1789, Tom</a>, <a title="Permanent Link: Richman on the 4th of July and American Independence" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/07/richman-on-the-4th-of-july-and-american-independence/">Richman on the 4th of July and American Independence</a><abbr title="5.000000 is the YARPP match score between the current entry and this related entry. You are seeing this value because you are logged in to WordPress as an administrator. It is not shown to regular visitors.">, </abbr><a title="Permanent Link: The Murdering, Thieving, Enslaving, Unlibertarian Continental Army" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/07/the-murdering-thieving-enslaving-unlibertarian-continental-army/">The Murdering, Thieving, Enslaving, Unlibertarian Continental Army</a><abbr title="4.000000 is the YARPP match score between the current entry and this related entry. You are seeing this value because you are logged in to WordPress as an administrator. It is not shown to regular visitors.">, </abbr><a title="Permanent Link: Napolitano on Health-Care Reform and the Constitution: Is the Commerce Clause Really Limited?" rel="bookmark" href="../2009/09/napolitano-on-health-care-reform-and-the-constitution/">Napolitano on Health-Care Reform and the Constitution: Is the Commerce Clause Really Limited?<abbr title="3.000000 is the YARPP match score between the current entry and this related entry. You are seeing this value because you are logged in to WordPress as an administrator. It is not shown to regular visitors."></abbr></a>; <a href="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/2010/04/14/was-the-american-revolution-really-about-taxes/">Was the American Revolution Really about Taxes?</a>; <a title="Permanent Link to Re: Happy Bill of Rights Day — The Problem with the Fourteenth Amendment" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/6854.html">Re: Happy Bill of Rights Day — The Problem with the Fourteenth Amendment</a>; <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/029347.html">Bill   Marina (R.I.P.) on American Imperialism  from the Beginning</a>; <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/010218.asp">Happy    We-Should-Restore-The-Monarchy-And-Rejoin-Britain Day!</a>; <a title="Permanent Link to Revising the American Revolution" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/029056.html">Revising    the American Revolution</a>; <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/28819.html">The    Murdering, Thieving, Enslaving, Unlibertarian Continental Army</a>; <a href="../2009/07/09/the-declaration-and-conscription/">The   Declaration and Conscription</a>; <a href="../2009/07/07/untold-truths-about-the-american-revolution/">‘Untold   Truths About the American Revolution’</a>.</li>
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		<itunes:subtitle>In a comment to his post on Sarah Palin, Sheldon Richman writes: I don&#039;t see that it&#039;s obvious that the Supreme Court has been dishonest about the Constitution. It was written as a deliberately vague document designed to satisfy multiple interests.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>In a comment to his post on Sarah Palin, Sheldon Richman writes:
I don&#039;t see that it&#039;s obvious that the Supreme Court has been dishonest about the Constitution. It was written as a deliberately vague document designed to satisfy multiple interests. It&#039;s very much an inkblot. Madison said it contained &quot;few and defined&quot; powers, yet he also endorsed the doctrine of implied powers. Let&#039;s get real. The Constitution was the result of a virtual coup intended to overthrow the Articles of Confederation. The feeling among the movers in Philadelphia was that there was too little central government, not too much; too little protectionism, not too much. I don&#039;t understand the constitutional sentimentalism among some libertarians. As Spooner said, the Constitution either authorized the government we have or was powerless to prevent it. Constitutions don&#039;t interpret or enforce themselves. People do, thus the rule of law is always the rule of men. Protection of freedom will not come from constitutions or &quot;limited&quot; Leviathans but from competition.
This is a really good point. For other good material on this point, see:

	Sheldon Richman, The Articles of Confederation Versus the Constitution
	John Hasnas, The Myth of the Rule of Law
	Jeffrey Rogers Hummel, The Constitution as Counter-Revolution (mp3; pdf)
	Kinsella, Rockwell on Hoppe on the Constitution as Expansion of Government Power 
	Lew Rockwell, The Hoppe Effect
	Rockwell, The Enemy Is Always the State
	Kinsella, Black Armbands for “Constitution Day”
	Kinsella, The Bad Bill of Rights, Goodbye 1776, 1789, Tom, Richman on the 4th of July and American Independence, The Murdering, Thieving, Enslaving, Unlibertarian Continental Army, Napolitano on Health-Care Reform and the Constitution: Is the Commerce Clause Really Limited?; Was the American Revolution Really about Taxes?; Re: Happy Bill of Rights Day — The Problem with the Fourteenth Amendment; Bill   Marina (R.I.P.) on American Imperialism  from the Beginning; Happy    We-Should-Restore-The-Monarchy-And-Rejoin-Britain Day!; Revising    the American Revolution; The    Murdering, Thieving, Enslaving, Unlibertarian Continental Army; The   Declaration and Conscription; ‘Untold   Truths About the American Revolution’.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Ideas are Free: The Case Against Intellectual Property: or, How Libertarians Went Wrong</title>
		<link>http://www.stephankinsella.com/2010/11/ideas-are-free-the-case-against-intellectual-property/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Kinsella</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mises Daily has published a transcript of a speech I delivered in May at the Fifth Annual Meeting of the Property and Freedom Society in Bodrum, Turkey: &#8220;Ideas are Free: The Case Against Intellectual Property: or, How Libertarians Went Wrong&#8221; (I discuss the conference in my post Bodrum Days and Nights: The Fifth Annual Meeting [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><em>Mises Daily</em> has published a transcript of a speech I delivered in May at the Fifth <a href="http://propertyandfreedom.org/meetings/">Annual Meeting</a> of  the <a href="http://propertyandfreedom.org/">Property and Freedom Society</a> in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodrum">Bodrum</a>, Turkey: &#8220;<strong><a href="http://mises.org/daily/4848/">Ideas are Free: The Case Against Intellectual Property: or, How Libertarians Went Wrong</a></strong>&#8221; (I discuss the conference in my post <a title="Permanent link to Bodrum Days and Nights: The  Fifth Annual Meeting of the Property and Freedom Society: A Partial  Report" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/2010/06/16/bodrum-days-and-nights/">Bodrum Days and Nights: The Fifth Annual Meeting of the Property  and Freedom Society: A Partial Report</a>; the original speech is also available in <a href="http://propertyandfreedom.org/media/2010-06-pfs-19-kinsella.mp3">audio</a> and <a href="http://www.vimeo.com/12598892">video</a>. I also participated in a Q&amp;A Discussion Panel featuring “Hoppe, van Dun, DiLorenzo, Kinsella, Daniels, Kealey”- <a href="http://www.vimeo.com/12599024">video</a>.)</p>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/12598892">PFS 2010 &#8211; Stephan Kinsella, Ideas are Free: The Case Against Intellectual Property Rights</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/seangabb">Sean Gabb</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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		<itunes:summary>Mises Daily has published a transcript of a speech I delivered in May at the Fifth Annual Meeting of  the Property and Freedom Society in Bodrum, Turkey: &quot;Ideas are Free: The Case Against Intellectual Property: or, How Libertarians Went Wrong&quot; (I discuss the conference in my post Bodrum Days and Nights: The Fifth Annual Meeting of the Property  and Freedom Society: A Partial Report; the original speech is also available in audio and video. I also participated in a Q&amp;A Discussion Panel featuring “Hoppe, van Dun, DiLorenzo, Kinsella, Daniels, Kealey”- video.)



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		<title>Kinsella on Ernest Hancock Discussing Intellectual Property</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I appeared yesterday on Ernest Hancock&#8217;s Declare Your Independence radio show for about two hours (hours 2 and 3 of his show) discussing intellectual property. It was a pretty wide-ranging, radical discussion, but I think I made progress with Ernie. The MP3 files are on the show&#8217;s page for that day; local files: hour 1; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>I appeared yesterday on <a href="http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/075341-2010-09-14-declare-your-independence-with-ernest-hancock-afternoon-september-14th-2010.htm">Ernest Hancock&#8217;s Declare Your Independence</a> radio show for about two hours (hours 2 and 3 of his show) discussing intellectual property. It was a pretty wide-ranging, radical discussion, but I think I made progress with Ernie. The MP3 files are on the <a href="http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/075341-2010-09-14-declare-your-independence-with-ernest-hancock-afternoon-september-14th-2010.htm">show&#8217;s page for that day</a>; local files: <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/media/2010-09-14-ernie-a-pm.mp3">hour 1</a>; <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/media/2010-09-14-ernie-b-pm.mp3">hour 2</a>; <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/media/2010-09-14-ernie-c-pm.mp3">hour 3</a>.</p>
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		<itunes:subtitle>I appeared yesterday on Ernest Hancock&#039;s Declare Your Independence radio show for about two hours (hours 2 and 3 of his show) discussing intellectual property. It was a pretty wide-ranging, radical discussion, but I think I made progress with Ernie.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>I appeared yesterday on Ernest Hancock&#039;s Declare Your Independence radio show for about two hours (hours 2 and 3 of his show) discussing intellectual property. It was a pretty wide-ranging, radical discussion, but I think I made progress with Ernie. The MP3 files are on the show&#039;s page for that day; local files: hour 1; hour 2; hour 3.</itunes:summary>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 18:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That I did not cross-post here: Stefan Molyneux’s “Libertarian Parenting” Series Stefan Molyneux, of Freedomain Radio, has recently had a very interesting series of interviews on “libertarian parenting”. The three guests (so far?) were me, my fellow TLS blogger Gil Guillory, and just today, David Friedman. The MP3s for the first two, and the YouTube videos [...]]]></description>
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<h2><a title="Permanent link to Stefan Molyneux’s “Libertarian Parenting” Series" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/2010/07/21/stefan-molyneuxs-libertarian-parenting-series/">Stefan Molyneux’s “Libertarian Parenting” Series</a></h2>
<p>Stefan Molyneux, of <a href="http://freedomainradio.com/">Freedomain Radio</a>, has recently had a very interesting series of interviews on “libertarian parenting”. The three guests (so far?) were me, my fellow TLS blogger Gil Guillory, and just today, David Friedman. The MP3s for the first two, and the YouTube videos for all three, are below. All three had different perspectives but were all very practical and had tons of great tips and ideas. Gil Guillory’s mentioned several books and other resources he’s found useful in the instruction of his children. There was <a href="http://www.schoolsucksproject.com/blog_posts/8" class="broken_link">a critique</a> of my discussion by one “Aaron,” an “unschooling” advocate, which was debated further on the <a href="http://freedomainradio.com/BOARD/forums/t/26575.aspx?PageIndex=1">FDR boards</a>, and discussed subsequently by Molyneux on the <a href="http://freedomainradio.com/DesktopModules/UltraNewsArticle/Read.aspx?Portalid=0&amp;ArticleId=8162" target="/DesktopModules/UltraNewsArticle">FDR1698 Sunday Call In Show July 18 2010</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://freedomainradio.com/Browse/SearchResults/tabid/90/mid/542/articleId/7947/ctl/ReadDefault/Default.aspx" target="/DesktopModules/UltraNewsArticle">FDR1689 Libertarian Parenting – A Freedomain Radio Conversation with Stephan Kinsella</a> – Two libertarian parents discuss how to best raise confident and freethinking children, including discipline without aggression, Montessori education, resolving conflicts and teaching skepticism and rationality.</p>
<p><a href="http://freedomainradio.com/Browse/SearchResults/tabid/90/mid/542/articleId/8019/ctl/ReadDefault/Default.aspx" target="/DesktopModules/UltraNewsArticle">FDR1693 Libertarian Parenting — A Conversation with Gil Guillory</a></p>
<h2><a title="Permanent link to The Best Introduction to Libertarianism Ever" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/2010/07/16/the-best-introduction-to-libertarianism-ever/">The Best Introduction to Libertarianism Ever</a></h2>
<p>I am not exaggerating: this is what Jacob Huebert’s just-published book<em>Libertarianism Today</em> is. I’ve been a libertarian for over 25 years, and have read <em>a lot</em> of libertarian books. I am sure I was one of <a href="http://www.lfb.org/">Laissez Faire Books</a>‘s biggest customers in its heyday in the 80s and 90s. Among introductions to libertarianism I’ve read are Murray Rothbard’s <a href="http://mises.org/rothbard/newlibertywhole.asp"><em>For A New Liberty</em></a> (1st ed. 1973), David Bergland’s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0975432648/?tag=thelibestan-20"><em>Libertarianism in One Lesson</em></a> (1st ed. 1984), David Boaz’s<a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/068484768X/?tag=thelibestan-20"><em>Libertarianism: A Primer</em></a> (1997), Charles Murray’s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0767900391/?tag=thelibestan-20"><em>What It Means To Be A Libertarian</em></a> (1997), Jeffrey Miron’s recent<a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0465019439/?tag=thelibestan-20"><em>Libertarianism from A to Z</em></a> (2010), and probably others I’ve forgotten.</p>
<p>Now, among these, Rothbard’s <em>FANL</em> is a classic and stands out, of course. But<em>FANL</em> is more of Rothbard’s own particular vision of libertarianism rather than a more comprehensive presentation of the views of the libertarian movement. And of course it is a bit dated by now, does not cover in detail topics that have risen to the fore in the intervening years (such as intellectual property, the Tea Party movement, nullification, etc.).</p>
<p>Given the rise of the Tea Party and the expansion of the libertarian movement in the last couple decades–and the inadequacies of other introductory books (each of them, other than <em>FANL</em>, has various deficiencies, although some of them are excellent and most of them worth reading too)–it was high time for a good, up to date new treatment. Huebert has done just this. I read the book in manuscript form well before its publication; I readily disclose I’m friends with Huebert (he’s also a co-blogger here at TLS). I read it with growing excitement. Here, finally, was a book that covered all the major issues, and from a solidly Austrian and anarchist-informed base–one that did not reveal (or feign) ignorance of various libertarian perspectives on issues such as democracy and decentralization and drawbacks of use of electoral politics or court battles. I’ve long maintained that an appreciation of Austrian economics is essential to sound libertarian theorizing; without it, there is always something missing; with it, a more integrated and coherent libertarian perspective is possible (and frankly I don’t see how one can be an Austrian and<em>not</em> a libertarian, unless one is a misanthrope). Huebert’s book exemplifies this strength in spades. He is thoroughly familiar with Austrian economics and intertwines it throughout his analysis. Let me also say, as somewhat of a specialist on IP related matters, that Huebert’s chapter on this topic is probably the single-best concise overview and explanation of the proper Austrian-libertarian case against IP, and the related libertarian debates about this matter, that I’ve ever read.</p>
<p>The book is great for the intelligent person looking to learn more, but has enough insights to interest even seasoned libertarian intellectuals. This is one of the first books I can imagine giving to intelligent, almost-libertarian friends, who have some interest in our ideas (others include Hazlitt’s<em>Economics in One Lesson</em>, Rothbard &amp; Rockwell’s <em>The Free Market Reader</em>, Bastiat’s <em>The Law</em>, Woods’s <em>Nullification</em> and <em>Meltdown</em>; for more ideas, and<a title="links" href="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/links/">links</a> to some of these, see my <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/kinsella/kinsella20.html">The Greatest Libertarian Books</a>). The book is punchy and well written, not boring; but it doesn’t talk down to the reader either. It’s got exactly the right tone, and covers all the major, modern libertarian issues–and fairly and objectively, to boot. It’s going to be very useful and popular among seasoned libertarians; the growing young generation of emerging libertarians; and with potentially interested people among the civil libertarian left and among the anti-bailout right/Tea Party types. I highly, highly recommend this wonderful book.</p>
<p>(See also Block’s excellent book review <a href="http://libertarianpapers.org/2010/19-block-review-of-hueberts-libertarianism-today/">here</a>.)</p>
<p><a title="Permanent link to Google Calls France A Monopoly!" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/2010/07/15/google-calls-france-a-monopoly/"><span style="color: #000000;">Google Calls France A Monopoly!</span></a></p>
<p>Well, they should, anyway–after all, “<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/02/business/02norris.html?_r=1&amp;ref=business&amp;pagewanted=all"><span style="color: #000000;">France Calls Google a Monopoly</span></a>,” which is absurd. The only real monopoly is the state and monopolies it grants, not private companies that have no extra-market power. Imagine a state adopting the motto, “Don’t Be Evil.” You could use it to strike down most of its laws!</p>
<h2><a title="Permanent link to Dodge Challenger Freedom Commercial" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/2010/07/07/dodge-challenger-freedom-commercial/">Dodge Challenger Freedom Commercial</a></h2>
<p>by STEPHAN KINSELLA <abbr title="2010-07-07">JULY 7, 2010</abbr></p>
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<p>This stupid Dodge commercial–which shows a Dodge Challenger arriving bearing American flags to save the day against the British Redcoats in 1776, ending with the narrator saying “America got two things right: Cars and freedom” is a sad statement about America. We have given up our freedoms and cling to mere words and slogans. We [...]</p>
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<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/2010/07/07/dodge-challenger-freedom-commercial/">Read the full article ?</a></p>
<h2><a title="Permanent link to What Kagan Should Have Said About Natural Rights" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/2010/07/02/what-kagan-should-have-said-about-natural-rights/">What Kagan Should Have Said About Natural Rights</a></h2>
<p>As noted in this Reason article, Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan was questioned by a Senator about whether she believes in natural rights that are not provided in the Constitution. She repeatedly refused to grant this, instead insisting: “I don’t have a view of what are natural rights, independent of the Constitution. And my job [...]</p>
<h2><a title="Permanent link to The National Intellectual Property Rights Coordination Center is Here to Help" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/2010/07/01/the-national-intellectual-property-rights-coordination-center-is-here-to-help/">The National Intellectual Property Rights Coordination Center is Here to Help</a></h2>
<p>Elizabeth Higgs passed this image on to me–she was alerted to this by a European friend who used a site called TV Shack to watch American TV and found the image above. The center seal, from the National Intellectual Property Rights Coordination Center, is creepy and  fascist-looking. And no wonder–the NIPRCC is a program of [...]</p>
<h2><a title="Permanent link to TLS Podcast Picks: Stefan Molyneux on Language and the State and the Motorhome Diaries" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/2010/07/01/tls-podcast-picks-molyneux-language-state-motorhome-diaries/">TLS Podcast Picks: Stefan Molyneux on Language and the State and the Motorhome Diaries</a></h2>
<p>Recommended podcasts: FDR #1688: Stefan Molyneux’s opening speech at Porcupine Freedom Festival (PorcFest) on “Language as the Ultimate Government Program” (June 26 2010; video below). It’s a fascinating, audience-participation talk about how the state uses euphemistic language to disguise and cover up the evil that it does–and how we can fight it. Also interesting–listen to [...]</p>
<h2><a title="Permanent link to Seinfeld’s Elaine is Anti-IP" rel="bookmark" href="http://blog.mises.org/13370/seinfelds-elaine-is-anti-ip/">Seinfeld’s Elaine is Anti-IP</a></h2>
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<h2><a title="Permanent link to Hoppe in Bulgarian" rel="bookmark" href="http://blog.mises.org/13330/hoppe-in-bulgarian/">Hoppe in Bulgarian</a></h2>
<h2><a title="Permanent link to The Creator-Endorsed Mark as an Alternative to Copyright" rel="bookmark" href="http://blog.mises.org/13286/the-creator-endorsed-mark-as-an-alternative-to-copyright/">The Creator-Endorsed Mark as an Alternative to Copyright</a></h2>
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<p>I’m often asked by people who are interested in the criticisms of intellectual property how authors, for example, would be compensated in a copyright-free society. My answer is sometimes: “I’m not sure. They’d have to figure it out.” I say this not because I have no opinions but because I’m not a consequentialist and do not want to acknowledge that the criticism of IP law is contingent on some kind of view of what would happen in its absence. In this, I’m reminded of John Hasnas’s comments in his brilliant, classic article <a href="http://faculty.msb.edu/hasnasj/GTWebSite/MythWeb.htm">The Myth of the Rule of Law</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>What would a free market in legal services be like?</p>
<p>I am always tempted to give the honest and accurate response to this challenge, which is that to ask the question is to miss the point. … It is possible to describe what a free market in shoes would be like <em>because we have one</em>. But such a description is merely an observation of the current state of a functioning market, not a projection of how human beings would organize themselves to supply a currently non-marketed good. To demand that an advocate of free market law (or Socrates of Monosizea, for that matter) describe in advance how markets would supply legal services (or shoes) is to issue an impossible challenge.</p></blockquote>
<p>With the advent of state IP legislation, the state has interrupted and preempted whatever other customs, business arrangements, contractual regimes and practices, and so on, that would no doubt have arisen in its absence. So it’s natural for those new to the anti-IP idea to be a bit nervous about replacing the current flawed IP system with … a vacuum. It’s natural for them to wonder, well what would occur in its absence? As I noted, the reason we are not sure is the state has snuffed them out. This is similar to the FCC which preempted and monopolized the field of property rights in airwaves just as they were starting to develop in the common law; now people are used to the idea of the state regulating and parceling out airwave or spectrum rights and might imagine there would be chaos if the FCC were abolished (for more on this see David Kelley &amp; Roger Donway‘s 1985 monograph <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.objectivistcenter.org/cth-17-1364-David_Kelley.aspx" target="_blank" class="broken_link">Laissez Parler: Freedom in the Electronic Media</a>, as discussed in my post <a href="http://blog.mises.org/10433/why-airwaves-electromagnetic-spectra-are-arguably-property/">Why Airwaves (Electromagnetic Spectra) Are (Arguably) Property</a>).</p>
<p>So, because people are bound to ask the inevitable: we IP opponents try to come up with some predictions and solutions and answers. Thus, in the end we must agree with Hasnas:</p>
<blockquote><p>Although I am tempted to give this response, I never do. This is because, although true, it never persuades. Instead, it is usually interpreted as an appeal for blind faith in the free market, and the failure to provide a specific explanation as to how such a market would provide legal services is interpreted as proof that it cannot. Therefore, despite the self-defeating nature of the attempt, I usually do try to suggest how a free market in law might work.</p></blockquote>
<p>How would content creators be rewarded in an IP-free market? Some answers may be found in Boldrin and Levine’s <a href="http://www.dklevine.com/general/intellectual/againstfinal.htm"><em>Against Intellectual Monopoly</em></a> (see Jeff Tucker’s <a href="http://mises.org/daily/3298">A Book that Changes Everything</a>). Inventors invent to be first to market. Academics publish articles or books to enhance their reputation and increase their employability. (As author Cory Doctorow <a href="http://blog.mises.org/8532/cory-doctorow-on-giving-away-free-e-books-and-the-morality-of-copying/">observes</a>, “For me — for pretty much every writer — <strong>the big problem isn’t piracy, it’s obscurity</strong>.”) Singers or musicians might give away recorded albums for free to gin up concert sales. Pharmaceutical companies, freed of enormous tax and regulatory (including the FDA) burdens would have much less need of a patent monopoly to help make up for these costs; and could profit from being first to market and reputation (notice that Tylenol still sells for about twice the price of the generics right next to it on the shelf?). Perfume and <a href="http://blog.mises.org/12798/this-is-a-fantastic-lecture-on-fashion-and-the-absence-of-ip/">fashion</a> thrive without IP. Open source software is plugging along. And so on. What about movies, or novels for profit? Various ideas have cropped up. Perhaps the author releases his first book for free to get a fan base; then withholds the sequel until a certain number of fans pledge to pay for the book. As for movies, perhaps they are released first in DRM format to elegant movie houses, before being released on DVD or digitally. (In <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/publications/#againstip"><em>Against Intellectual Property</em></a>, n.67, I related the example of how drive in movie theaters, “faced with the prospect of free riders peering over the walls, installed—at considerable expense—individual speakers for each car, thus rendering the publicly available visual part of the movie of little interest.”) It is basically the task of entrepreneurship to figure out how to make a profit off of a given service, given the realities of costs of exclusion, ease of cheap substitutes, and so on.</p>
<p>At the <a href="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/2010/06/16/bodrum-days-and-nights/">Property and Freedom Society conference</a> in Turkey last June, someone asked me just these questions after my IP talk. One thing I suggested–brainstorming in the lobby–was that a novelist could perhaps sell his “endorsement” and consulting to a given movie version of his novel. Why would the movie studio pay him? Well if there are two or three movie versions of a novel, the version on which the author consulted and gives his “seal of approval” would likely be more attractive to his fans. So everyone benefits: the fans have an indication of which movie to see; the movie studio makes more money; and the author gets a royalty and consulting fee. Maybe he sold the book for free simply to have a chance to consult on and endorse a movie version. Who knows?</p>
<p>I recently came across a similar and brilliant idea introduced to me by Nina Paley, a creative artist and anti-copyright innovator (see <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/2010/02/27/interview-nina-paley-on-copyright/">Interview: Nina Paley on Copyright</a>; <a href="http://blog.mises.org/11674/nina-paleys-all-creative-work-is-derivative/">Nina Paley’s “All Creative Work is Derivative”</a>). Her idea is the <a href="http://questioncopyright.org/creator_endorsed">Creator-Endorsed Mark</a>. As the <a href="http://questioncopyright.org/creator_endorsed">CE page</a> on the QuestionCopyright.org site explains,</p>
<p>The <strong>Creator-Endorsed Mark</strong> is a logo that a distributor can use to indicate that a work is distributed in a way that its creator endorses — typically, by the distributor sharing some of the profits with the creator. … For example, the creator might say that anyone who shares any profits at all with them can use the generic “proceeds support” version of the mark. … Furthermore, a creator might grant permission to anyone who shares a certain percentage of their profits to use a “percentage” version of the mark, as long as it does not exceed the actual percentage shared. For example, a distributor sharing 25% of profits could use this mark.</p>
<p>Because there is no copyright (or it’s disclaimed, say) someone could distribute the work without the author’s permission and without the CE mark, but presumably CE-endorsed works would sell better as fans and customers prefer to buy from distributors who support the artist.</p>
<p>What’s to prevent someone from faking the CE mark itself? The idea seems to be that the CE mark is subject to trademark, misuse of which is trademark infringement. Opponents of IP might wonder if this is just replacing copyright infringement with trademark infringement. However, as I discuss in <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/publications/#againstip"><em>Against Intellectual Property</em></a> and my post <a href="http://blog.mises.org/9424/trademark-versus-copyright-and-patent-or-is-all-ip-evil/">Trademark versus Copyright and Patent, or: Is All IP Evil?</a>, there is an aspect of trademark law that could be justified under libertarian principles: namely, some types of trademark infringement are really instances of the seller defrauding the consumer. So in a free market, distributors who sold not only bootleg copies of an artistic work but falsely marked it CE would be defrauding their customers, and thus would be restricted to marginal and fly by night operations, not much different than a garden-variety bootlegger. Would customers pay more for a CE-endorsed work? Probably so, if the author was still alive and if the premium were not unreasonable; after all, as noted, people pay about twice as much now for brand-name over-the-counter drugs (Advil instead of ibuprofen, etc.), just for the reputation. (And in fact maybe the opposite would happen in some cases: instead of buying a Michael Moore CE-endorsed version of his movie, one might prefer to buy the cheaper, bootlegged version instead to have a cleaner conscience.)</p>
<p>As for the origin of the Creator-Endorsed Mark idea, Nina Paley tells me that if this idea</p>
<p>has a creator, it would be <a href="http://questioncopyright.org/who">Karl Fogel</a> of QuestionCopyright.org. He wrote about the “Author-Endorsed Mark” well before I hit the Free Culture scene. When Fogel and I collaborated on the Free release of <a href="http://www.sitasingstheblues.com/">Sita Sings the Blues</a>, we changed “Author-Endorsed” to “Creator-Endorsed”  (… the thinking was “creator” includes visual artists, musicians, and others as well as authors of texts). I designed the logo, and we put the mark in action on “Sita” DVDs, CDs, and other merchandise.</p>
<p>I have to say that I like the CE approach much more than “<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyleft">copyleft</a>” or similar approaches such as <a href="http://creativecommons.org/about/licenses/">CC-Share Alike</a>–as noted in <a title="Permanent link to Copyright is very sticky!" rel="bookmark" href="http://blog.mises.org/13286/9240/copyright-is-very-sticky/">Copyright is very sticky!</a>, there are many problems with copyleft–not only that it is based on and requires copyright to exist (even Creative Commons doesn’t shy from <a href="http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/22643?utm_source=ccorg&amp;utm_medium=postbanner">admitting this reality</a>: “Creative Commons licenses are copyright licenses – plain and simple. Period. CC licenses are legal tools that creators can use to offer certain usage rights to the public, while reserving other rights. <strong>Without copyright, these tools don’t work.</strong>” The CE approach works <em>even better</em> in the absence of copyright. It is a much cleaner, elegant, less statist, and libertarian approach, in my view, than copyleft. (For some other problems with the leftish approaches to IP, open source, and related matters, see my posts <a title="Permanent link to Eben Moglen and Leftist Opposition to  Intellectual Property" rel="bookmark" href="http://blog.mises.org/13286/10901/2009/10/10/eben-moglen-and-leftist-opposition-to-intellectual-property/">Eben Moglen and Leftist Opposition to Intellectual Property</a>, <a title="Permanent link to Thick and Thin Libertarians on  IP and Open Source" rel="bookmark" href="http://blog.mises.org/13286/10901/thick-and-thin-libertarians-on-ip-and-open-source/">Thick and Thin Libertarians on IP and Open Source</a>, and <a title="Permanent link to An Open Letter to Leftist  Opponents of Intellectual Property: On IP and the Support of the State" rel="bookmark" href="http://blog.mises.org/13286/8374/an-open-letter-to-leftist-opponents-of-intellectual-property-on-ip-and-the-support-of-the-state/">An Open Letter to Leftist Opponents of Intellectual Property: On IP and the Support of the State</a>.)</p>
<p>In any case, Fogel’s and Paley’s intellectual innovation here should be strongly considered by those seeking a moral way to profit off of creative content.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://blog.mises.org/13277/the-l-neil-smith-freetalklive-copyright-dispute/">The L. Neil Smith – FreeTalkLive Copyright Dispute</a></strong></p>
<p>I have long been a fan of libertarian sci-fi author L. Neil Smith. I’ve read perhaps eight or ten of his novels, my favorites being <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Probability-Broach-L-Neil-Smith/dp/0765301539/"><em>The Probability Broach</em></a> and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Gallatin-Divergence-L-Neil-Smith/dp/0345303830/"><em>The Gallatin Divergence</em></a>, both of which I highly recommend. The only one of his I disliked–and I disliked it a lot–was <a href="http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/s/l-neil-smith/hope.htm"><em>Hope</em></a>, co-authored with Aaron Zellman. (As I noted in my LRC article “<a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/kinsella/kinsella20.html">The Greatest Libertarian Books</a>,” other favorites include Heinlein’s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Moon-Harsh-Mistress-Robert-Heinlein/dp/0312863551/"><em>The Moon is a Harsh Mistress</em></a>, J. Neil Schulman’s <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1584451203/sr=1-1/qid=1154820774/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-8208774-0223107?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books/lewrockwell/">Alongside Night</a></em>, and quasi-libertarian John C. Wright’s <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/004021.html"><em>The Golden Age</em></a> trilogy.) I’ve also <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/2009/11/07/how-much-richer-would-be-in-a-free-society-l-neil-smiths-great-speech/">praised</a> Smith’s great speech “Unanimous Consent and the Utopian Vision, or, I Dreamed I Was a Signatory In My Maidenform Bra,” especially for its interesting conclusion about just how much richer we would be in a free society (his answer: at least eight times).</p>
<p>I’ve long been aware that Schulman was pro-IP–he is the author of the “logorights” theory of IP, which I have criticized at length elsewhere (see my <a href="http://blog.mises.org/13017/terence-kealey-science-is-a-private-good-%E2%80%93-or-why-government-science-is-wasteful/comment-page-1/#comment-698883">comments to Schulman in this post</a>; also <a href="http://blog.mises.org/10215/on-j-neil-schulmans-logorights/">On J. Neil Schulman’s Logorights</a>; <a title="Permanent link to Reply to Schulman on the State, IP, and  Carson" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/2009/12/25/reply-to-schulman-on-the-state-ip-and-carson/">Reply to Schulman on the State, IP, and Carson</a>; <a href="http://blog.mises.org/11327/ip-the-objectivists-strike-back/">IP: The Objectivists Strike Back!</a>). And Wright is too–he blogged about it on his <a href="http://johncwright.livejournal.com/">LiveJournal account</a> a while back, though I can’t find it now–he is for copyright, because he is an author of novels. I had no idea Neil Smith was also pro-IP, but apparently he is, as a minor brouhaha yesterday revealed. Apparently libertarian sci-fi authors, even anarchists like Schulman and Smith, go astray on IP–perhaps, in part, due to the influence of another libertarian novelist, Ayn Rand.</p>
<p><a rel="attachment wp-att-13279" href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/?attachment_id=13279" class="broken_link"><img title="Shire Society Declaration" src="http://images.mises.org/blog/ShireLibra_web-233x300.jpg" alt="" width="233" height="300" /></a>Back in 1985 or so, Smith started circulating “<a href="http://www.lneilsmith.org/new-cov.html">A New Covenant</a>,” a declaration of libertarian principles excerpted from his <em>The Gallatin Divergence</em> novel. Libertarians were encouraged to copy, sign, and mail it in with a $2 “processing and archiving” fee. I myself did this back in 1991. Recently, a group called <a href="http://www.shiresociety.com/">The Shire Society</a>, which apparently is associated with the heroic, New Hampshire-based<a href="http://freetalklive.com/">FreeTalkLive</a> radio show (hosted by Ian Freeman and Mark Edge) and the NH-based <a href="http://freestateproject.org/">Free State Project</a>, was formed, as noted <a href="http://www.fr33agents.com/3114/the-genesis-of-the-shire-society/#comments" class="broken_link">here</a>: “The Shire Society is a voluntary association of sovereign individuals committed to the ideals peace and liberty. The Shire Society Declaration is intended to announce their non violent withdrawal of consent from the coercive state society.”</p>
<p>The <a href="http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=1997.0">Shire Society Declaration was based on Smith’s New Covenant</a>, but was altered–improved, in the minds of the advocates of the Shire Society. Smith got wind of this and was upset, since he viewed it as plagiarism, theft, and unauthorized modification of his “property.” This led to an escalating exchange of emails between him and Ian Freeman, and others, as can be seen on <a href="http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=3502.0">this thread</a>. After Smith called Freeman “socialist scum,” demanded restitution, cc’d his lawyer, and threatened to take it public, Freeman announced he would take it live to his national radio program that night–last night (July 13, 2010). Which he did. The MP3 file for that night’s show is <a href="http://cdn1.libsyn.com/ftl/FTL2010-07-13.mp3">here</a> (<a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/media/FTL2010-07-13.mp3">local copy</a>); Ian starts discussing this issue at 1:44:17, until the end of the show, about an hour later. I was asked to call in, and did so, participating from 2:10:15 for a good 15 or so minutes. The thread linked earlier and the podcast discussion is very good and interesting. As I noted, I’m a huge admirer of Smith and what he’s done for liberty. And I can understand him being angry if someone stole from him. But that’s the issue, for libertarians: was he stolen from? Asserting he was stolen from presupposes he has a legitimate property right in a pattern of words; i.e., it presupposes IP is valid. For the libertarian, that is the question itself: is IP legitimate? To assume there was theft is thus question-beggging.</p>
<p>To his credit, Smith has run anti-IP pieces on his <a href="http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2009/tle549-20091220-05.html">site previously</a>; but according to some of Smith’s emails posted by people in the comments in the FTL <a href="http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=3502.0">thread</a>, he intends to write a defense of IP rights on his site,<a href="http://www.ncc-1776.org/">The Libertarian Enterprise</a>, this weekend. I will be interested to see what Smith comes up with, but I can’t see how he can justify IP. First, it requires legislation and the state, and he’s an anarchist so can’t support that. Second, granting rights in nonscarce things always invades rights in already-owned scarce resources. Back in 1991 when I signed Smith’s Covenant, I was not yet anti-IP. If I were, I might have realized the words “we shall henceforward recognize each individual to be the exclusive Proprietor of his or her own Existence and of all products of that Existence” was a Rand-inspired “Creationist” view of property rights that does in fact imply IP rights. And although the framers of the Shire Declaration meant to improve on the New Covenant, they left in the language “we shall henceforward recognize each individual to be the exclusive Proprietor of his or her own Existence and of all products of that Existence.” In my view, the Shire Society Declaration should be further modified to excise or change this language: we are <em>not</em> “proprietors” of all “products” of our “existence”; this is vague, loose, quasi-Galambosian-Randian terminology that is subject to equivocation. Rather, we have property rights in our bodies and in all scarce resources homesteaded by us or ancestors in title, unless and until these rights are altered by an act of aggression or some consensual title transfer. (For more, see my “<a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/publications/#what-libertarianism-is">What Libertarianism Is</a>“; aslo links in this post:  <a href="http://blog.mises.org/11203/objectivists-all-property-is-intellectual-property/">Objectivists: “All Property is Intellectual Property”</a>, including <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/publications/#ipquagmire">The Intellectual Property Quagmire, or, The Perils of Libertarian Creationism</a>, <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/2009/11/16/rand-on-ip-owning-values-and-rearrangement-rights/">Rand on IP, Owning “Values”, and “Rearrangement Rights”</a>; <a href="http://blog.mises.org/13277/archives/007997.asp">Libertarian Creationism</a>; <a href="http://blog.mises.org/13277/archives/007614.asp">Objectivist Law Prof Mossoff on Copyright; or, the Misuse of Labor, Value, and Creation Metaphors</a>; <a href="http://blog.mises.org/13277/archives/008380.asp">Inventors are Like Unto …GODS…</a>.; <a href="http://rebirthofreason.com/Articles/Machan/Intellectual_Products_and_the_Right_to_Private_Property.shtml">Intellectual Products and the Right to Private Property</a>; <a href="http://blog.mises.org/13277/archives/006000.asp">Owning Thoughts and Labor</a>;<a href="http://blog.mises.org/13277/archives/004528.asp">Elaborations on Randian IP</a>; and <a href="http://blog.mises.org/13277/archives/004992.asp">Objectivists on IP</a>.)</p>
<p>I’d like to reiterate my respect, admiration, and gratitude for Smith and his heroic libertarian activism and wonderful novels. But I disagree with him–strongly–on IP. We who oppose IP are not collectivists or socialists. In fact it is precisely because of our reverence for property rights and justice, and our opposition to statism and socialism of all forms, that we oppose IP, as explained in my articles “<a href="http://mises.org/daily/3863">Intellectual Property and Libertarianism</a>” and “<a href="http://mises.org/story/3682">The Case Against IP: A Concise Guide</a>.”</p>
<p><strong>Update</strong>: FreeTalkLive had further discussion of this on their <a href="http://cdn1.libsyn.com/ftl/FTL2010-07-13.mp3">July 14 show</a>, from about 44:00 on.</p>
<p>Another update: See <a href="http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2010/07/16/guest-comic-by-the-muslim-anarchist/">Guest Comic by The Muslim Agorist: The Revolution will be Plagiarised</a></p>
<p><a href="http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2010/07/16/guest-comic-by-the-muslim-anarchist/"><img title="The Revolution will be Plagiarised" src="http://anarchyinyourhead.com/comics/2010-07-16_plagiarised.gif" alt="" width="634" height="816" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Update 3</strong>: Smith has written a reply of sorts: <a href="http://ncc-1776.org/tle2010/tle579-20100718-02.html">Little Criminals: The Context of Consent</a>; Seth Cohn provided a good dissection of it <a href="http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=3502.msg39086#msg39086">in a comment</a> on FreeKeene.com. I have to say I cannot discern an argument at all in Smith’s piece. He simply assumes that what you create is your property, and throws in a few utilitarian considerations.</p>
<p><strong>Update 4</strong>: See also my post <a title="Permanent link to Replies to Neil Schulman and  Neil Smith re IP" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/2010/07/19/replies-to-neil-schulman-and-neil-smith-re-ip/">Replies to Neil Schulman and Neil Smith re IP.</a></p>
<p><strong>Update 5</strong>: FreeTalkLive’s <a href="http://media.libsyn.com/media/ftl/FTL2010-07-19.mp3">July 19 show</a> discussed Smith’s <a href="http://ncc-1776.org/tle2010/tle579-20100718-02.html">Little Criminals: The Context of Consent</a> (start at 1:02:35) and also, in response to a call-in by Todd Andrew Barnett, on the <a href="http://media.libsyn.com/media/ftl/FTL2010-07-21.mp3">July 21 show</a> (start at 50:41); and again, on the <a href="http://media.libsyn.com/media/ftl/FTL2010-07-23.mp3">July 23 show</a> (28:14) and on the <a href="http://cdn3.libsyn.com/ftl/FTL2010-07-25.mp3">July 25 show</a> (15:10).</p>
<p><strong>Update 6</strong>: Smith has posted a couple of anti-IP articles on his site, <em>The Libertarian Enterprise</em>, Seth Cohn’s <a href="http://ncc-1776.org/tle2010/tle580-20100725-03.html">A response to “Little Criminals” with a challenge…</a> and Theodore Minick’s <a href="http://ncc-1776.org/tle2010/tle580-20100725-04.html">IP is dead, Long Live Media!</a></p>
<h2><a title="Permanent link to The Ethical Case Against Intellectual Property, by David Koepsell" rel="bookmark" href="http://blog.mises.org/12732/the-ethical-case-against-intellectual-property-by-david-koepsell/">The Ethical Case Against Intellectual Property, by David Koepsell</a></h2>
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<h2><a title="Permanent link to No Method to Patent Madness: The Supreme Court’s Bilski Decision" rel="bookmark" href="http://blog.mises.org/13096/no-method-to-patent-madness-the-supreme-courts-bilski-decision/">No Method to Patent Madness: The Supreme Court’s Bilski Decision</a></h2>
<p>The Supreme Court handed down this term’s final four decisions today: <em><a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/08-1371.ZS.html">Christian Legal Society Chapter v. Martinez</a></em>, on public university limitations on a Christian student group’s rights of association; the <em><a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/08-1521.ZS.html">McDonald v. Chicago</a></em> case incorporating the <em>Heller</em> gun decision against the states (Huebert’s <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/60452.html">discusssion</a>); <a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/08-861.ZS.html"><em>Free Enterprise Fund v. Public Co. Oversight Bd</em>.</a> (a Sarbanes-Oxley decision); and <em><a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/08-964.ZS.html">Bilski v. Doll</a></em>, a much-anticipated patent case.</p>
<p>Patent law is mind numbingly arcane, technical, and boring, so let me simplify as much as possible. This case was about what the legal test should be to determine whether certain processes can be possibly eligible for patent protection. For typical practical technical or industrial processes, it’s not a difficult question. But for “business-related” methods, such as the one here–which had to do a way for commodities buyers and sellers in the energy market to hedge against the risk of price changes by following a certain mathematical formula–the question gets trickier. Courts are leery of opening the door all the way because then we’d be swamped in even more ridiculous patents than we are now (such as the attempt by Dustin Stamper, President <a href="http://www.taxanalysts.com/www/features.nsf/Articles/26FF0F3BD676A87285257355004B7FFE?OpenDocument">Bush’s Top Economist,</a> to secure a patent regarding an application for a <a href="http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2007/0198390.html">System And Method For Multi-State Tax Analysis</a>, which claims “a method, comprising: creating one or more alternate entity structures based on a base entity structure, the base entity structure comprising one or more entities; determining a tax liability for each alternate entity structure and the base entity structure; and generating a result based on comparing each of the determined tax liabilities”).</p>
<p>The Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit (CAFC) tried to do this by adopting a more rigid test than had been used before. They said that a process could be patented <em>only</em> if it (1) it is tied to a particular machine or apparatus, or (2) it transforms a particular article into a different state or thing–this is the “machine-or-transformation test.” Based on this test, the claimed business method was rejected. The problem is, this test is not in the Patent Act. So the Supremes had to take a crack at it. Now I have mentioned this case before, in <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/2009/08/10/the-arbitrariness-of-patent-law/">The Arbitrariness of Patent Law</a>; <a href="http://blog.mises.org/11097/supreme-skepticism-toward-method-patents/">Supreme Skepticism Toward Method Patents</a>; and <a href="http://mises.org/daily/3702#ref18">Radical Patent Reform Is <em>Not</em> on the Way</a>. This is one of these cases that had patent lawyers crying crocodile tears, gnashing their teeth, acting as if this was just part of the terrible and radical–<em>radical!</em>–movement to scale back patent rights. Anyway, I predicted:”I suspect the Court will choke back a bit on software and business method patents–but not too much.” It was obvious from the oral arguments that the Court saw how ridiculous it would be to have an open test that allowed a lot more types of processes be eligible for protection. You could have patents on anything. So they want to choke back on this, and so did the CAFC. Unfortunately, the patent law is there. And the judges have to interpret this mess. It’s not their fault, really. I don’t blame them for this impossible task. As I noted in a <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/2010/06/23/logical-and-legal-positivism/">recent post</a>,</p>
<blockquote><p>As I noted in <a href="http://blog.mises.org/10838/another-problem-with-legislation-james-carter-v-the-field-codes/">Another Problem with Legislation: James Carter v. the Field Codes</a>, there is a fascinating paper published in 1884 by James C. Carter, <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/texts/carter_codification-common.pdf">The Proposed Codification of Our Common Law: A Paper Prepared at the Request of The Committee of the Bar Association of the City of New York, Appointed to Oppose the Measure</a>. This paper was an attack on David Dudley Field’s attempt to (legislatively) codify New York’s common law. Carter opposed replacing case law with centralized legislation. Carter notes that caselaw precedents are flexible and allow the judge to do justice (see also John Hasnas’s classic <a href="http://faculty.msb.edu/hasnasj/GTWebSite/MythFinalDraft.pdf">The Myth of the Rule of Law</a>), while statutes are applied literally, even where injustice is done or the legislator did not contemplate this result. Thus, Carter argues, one of the worst effects of legislatively codifying law–replacing organically developed law with artificial statutes–is that it changes the role of courts and judges from one in which the judge searches for justice into mere squabbles over definitions of words found in statutes. As he said at pp. 86-86:</p>
<blockquote><p>At present, when any doubt arises in any particular case as to what the true rule of the unwritten [i.e., judge-found, common-law developed] law is, it is at once assumed that the rule most in accordance with justice and sound policy is the one which must be declared to be the law. The search is for that rule. The appeal is squarely made to the highest considerations of morality and justice. These are the rallying points of the struggle. The contention is ennobling and beneficial to the advocates, to the judges, to the parties, to the auditors, and so indirectly to the whole community. The decision then made records another step in the advance of human reason towards that perfection after which it forever aspires. But when the law is conceded to be written down in a statute, and the only question is what the statute means, a contention unspeakably inferior is substituted. The dispute is about <em>words</em>. <strong>The question of what is right or wrong, just or unjust, is irrelevant and out of place</strong>. <strong>The only question is what has been written</strong>. What <strong>a wretched exchange for the manly encounter upon the elevated plane of principle</strong>!</p></blockquote>
<p>Or, as I note in “<a href="http://www.mises.org/journals/jls/11_2/11_2_5.pdf">Legislation and the Discovery of Law in a Free Society</a>,” <em>Journal of Libertarian Studies</em> 11 (Summer 1995), “Thus, previously, law was thought of as a body of true principles ripe for discovery by judges, not as whatever the legislator decreed. Nowadays, however, legislation has become such a ubiquitous way of making law that ‘the very idea that the law might not be identical with legislation seems odd both to students of law and to laymen.’” [Bruno Leoni, <a href="http://oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&amp;staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=920&amp;chapter=193185&amp;layout=html&amp;Itemid=27"><em>Freedom and the Law</em></a>]</p></blockquote>
<p>The point is, the judges here are merely interpreting arbitrary words of an artificial law, a statute–a written down edict of the legislature, a bunch of words that have no inner harmony, no guarantee of consistency, no relationship to justice. So you can’t really criticize the courts too much for how they construe these legal abominations.</p>
<p>Back to <em>Bilski</em>. So the Court rejected the CAFC’s holding that the “machine-or-transformation test” was the<em>sole</em> test for determining patent eligibility. They said that while this test “may be a useful and important clue or investigative tool, it is not the sole test for deciding whether an invention is a patent-eligible ‘process.’”But they had to find a way to strike down this patent, so they did so based on an older test, one that just said you can’t patent “abstract ideas.” So, the Court was able to reject the narrow test of the CAFC, without having to allow this business method patent. But they wanted to encourage the CAFC that they could try to find yet other ways to limit questionable method patents: “In disapproving an exclusive machine-or-transformation test, we by no means foreclose the Federal Circuit’s development of other limiting criteria that further the purposes of the Patent Act and are not inconsistent with its text.” I.e., they punted: you guys figure out a better way to shut the doors a bit more, consistent with this statute.</p>
<p>So what do we have: we have a very slight narrowing of patent eligibility by re-use of an old “abstract idea” test; a rejection of the more bright-line, narrower but unstatutory test of the CAFC; and more <a href="http://www.mises.org/journals/jls/11_2/11_2_5.pdf"></a><a href="http://mises.org/daily/4147">legal</a><a href="http://www.mises.org/journals/jls/11_2/11_2_5.pdf">uncertainty</a>. And while the <a href="http://mises.org/story/3702">patent bar will use</a> the slightest modification of patent law to cry that the sky is falling, it’s not. Unfortunately.</p>
<p>(H/t <a href="http://www.cobdencentre.org/2010/05/i-predict-a-riot/">Anita Acavalos</a> for suggestions re the title.)</p>
<h2><a title="Permanent link to Locke, Smith, Marx and the Labor Theory of Value" rel="bookmark" href="http://blog.mises.org/13064/lock-smith-marx-and-the-labor-theory-of-value/">Locke, Smith, Marx and the Labor Theory of Value</a></h2>
<p>I am trying to research connections between Locke, Smith, and Marx regarding labor. If I recall, Rothbard and others have written about Smith’s views on labor influencing Marx. I’d appreciate any suggestions or discussion as to good references on this issue.</p>
<p>In addition to the Smith-Marx connection, It is also my view that Locke’s idea that homesteading rests on “ownership” of labor is mistaken–it’s an unnecessary step; you can show Lockean homesteading is justified without making the crankish assumption that you own your labor. But the assumption that you can own your labor, I believe, has led to (or supports) modern mistakes like reputation rights, intellectual property, and the like–it’s led to an overemphasis on the right to “own” whatever you “create” by your labor, without first asking whether the thing created/labored upon is ownable in the first place (see, e.g,. my posts <a title="Permanent link to Objectivists: â??All Property is  Intellectual Propertyâ??" rel="bookmark" href="http://blog.mises.org/11203/objectivists-all-property-is-intellectual-property/">Objectivists: “All Property is Intellectual Property”</a>, <a title="Permanent link to Rand on IP, Owning â??Valuesâ??,  and â??Rearrangement Rightsâ??" rel="bookmark" href="http://blog.mises.org/11042/rand-on-ip-owning-values-and-rearrangement-rights/">Rand on IP, Owning “Values”, and “Rearrangement Rights”</a>, and <a title="Permanent link to Thoughts on Intellectual  Property, Scarcity, Labor-ownership, Metaphors, and Lockean  Homesteading" rel="bookmark" href="http://blog.mises.org/5098/thoughts-on-intellectual-property-scarcity-labor-ownership-metaphors-and-lockean-homesteading/">Thoughts on Intellectual Property, Scarcity, Labor-ownership, Metaphors, and Lockean Homesteading</a>).</p>
<p>I’d like to investigate the extent to which Locke’s (and related) views about labor (and its role in homesteading) influenced Smith and the labor theory of value. Tim Virkkala tells me</p>
<blockquote><p>I think it’s widely believed that the Lockean Theory of Land Acquisition gave weight to the Labor Theory of Value, though the two have almost nothing in common. … One is a theory of the justice of taking land out of “the commons” and respecting property rights; the other is a theory of how labor somehow effects prices and exchange ratios. Weird that it ever bled from one domain to the other. Rothbard charged that Adam Smith was unduly influenced by (to Rothbard) unspeakably vile Protestant views in Scotland. This seemed a tad strained to me. After all, I’ve read THE THEORY OF MORAL SENTIMENTS, and it’s not very Presbyterian.</p></blockquote>
<p>Basically, I wonder if it can be shown that Locke’s misplaced and overly metaphorical emphasis on owning labor led not only to IP and related bizarre notions but also to communism. If anyone has any suggested references discussing this connection, please note or discuss in the comments.</p>
<p>Note: On an email list, David Gordon did mention this: “On the relation between Locke’s theory of property and the labor theory of value, R.L. Meek, <em>Studies in the Labour Theory of Value</em>, argues against a connection. G.A. Cohen, “Marx and Locke on Land and Labour” is a very good paper.” I’ve just ordered the former book as well as Cohen’s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Self-Ownership-Freedom-Equality-Studies-Marxism/dp/0521477514">book</a> in which his paper appears, but have not yet read them.</p>
<p><strong>Legal and Logical Positivism</strong></p>
<p>Incidentally, I am also interested in a separate question:</p>
<p>I believe I read long ago some intriguing analysis linking legal positivism with logical positivism–showing the commonalities and interrelationships. But I’ve long lost this reference and have not been able to find exactly what I’m looking for. If anyone knows of any good discussions about the links between legal positivism and logical positivism, I’d appreciate you sharing it.</p>
<p>I think it’s time for some libertarian to set the record straight on legal positivism, and to do this right I think its connections to logical positivism need to be analyzed as well. For legal positivism, as a libertarian this issue has always frustrated me. The natural law types seem to take a bizarre stance on it, speaking in overly metaphorical, colorful, non-rigorous, almost mystical language. For example they talk about how law and morals cannot be separated, which seems like a nonsense idea in the first place. A strict interpretation of this would mean we cannot even identify existing positive law as law if it is not just law (to make this worse, the standard of “just” for most natural lawyers is not libertarian; it is more procedural and/or religious/statist).</p>
<p>The common law court/militia nut types exemplify this by capitalizing the word “Law” when they speak of “just” or “valid” laws. They say that law is not a Law if it is not just, and so on, which seems needlessly semantically disingenuous and crankish to me. I’ve always thought that of course we can identify something as a law even if it is unjust, and thus we can and should distinguish between just law and unjust law (not that just any dictate of a state is law–as even H.L.A. Hart shows in The Concept of Law–some decrees can be so arbitrary and unlaw-like as to not even be law, but that does not mean that every law that is, is just). I’ve always thought that what is unlibertarian about legal positivism is not the idea that law can be “separated” from morals (i.e. that we can identify something as a law, even if it’s a bad law), but rather the assumption that law can be, or even must be, issued by some sovereign–namely the state, or its legislature. (And to be honest, I have always thought that natural law is legal positivist in this sense as well, by just pushing the ultimate law-maker back from the human legislature to God; but to my mind, the very idea that justice, goodness, true law can be decreed by any entity, even God, is fallacious and contrary to the notion or rightness and justice itself.) And I have an inkling that this form or aspect of legal positivism–the idea that law or morals can be issued by decree of some authority–the part I view as unlibertarian–is somehow linked with logical positivism/monism/empiricism/scientism. But I have struggled to make this connection just right in my mind, though I feel that it is there; and I believe I have read something on this by some acute observer in the past–some normal commentator, not even some libertarian with an axe to grind.</p>
<p>As above, if anyone has any suggested references discussing this connection, please note or discuss in the comments.</p>
<p><strong>Update</strong>: in reply to the <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/2010/06/23/logical-and-legal-positivism/comment-page-1/#comment-49327">comment on my cross-post on my blog</a>:</p>
<p>Thanks. Many people say legal positivism is just the idea that we can identify existing law without necessarily pronouncing on its legitimacy–its morality of justness. If that was all it was, I would hardly see what the debate is about, since we obviously can recognize law even if it is unjust law; there can be unjust law. This is especially so when law is made by legislative decree.</p>
<p>I think there is a something more to legal positivism, and this aspect is more troubling to libertarians and it is this aspect that I think makes it arguably have a connection to logical positivism. It is, as I said, the idea that law is or can, or really must, be decreed, by some law-maker, some authority. It is the idea that something cannot be a real law <em>unless</em> it has the blessing of the state. I suppose I see a possible connection here to logical positivism since it is monist. It is empiricist. The legal positivist seems to be monist, to me, too, in a sense, since he sees no “reality” to the normative realm. If I say this is a just law for such and such reason, and that is an unjust law, then he thinks this is mere unscientific metaphysics, since it does not have any teeth to it. He is like the empiricist-logical positivist in that he sees things as real only if they have direct or physical consequences, are testable, and so on. The logical positivist dismisses apriori and teleological reasoning as mere metaphysics or empty assertions. It’s only real to him if its formulated as a falsifiable law that can then be subjected to experiment and data and possible falsification. Likewise, the legal positivist only thinks of a rule as a “real” one if it is enforced and issued by some authority. This leads them to not only dismiss moral reasoning about “natural law” on the grounds that it’s mere babble or wordplay, it leads them to have little objective criticism of positive law that does exist. If you start to think of “real law” as only law that the sovereign decrees and enforces, then you start equating law with “whatever the sovereign does.” You see this mentality echoed all the time when people, like Rush Limbaugh, say, say that drugs should be illegal, because they are illegal.</p>
<p>And when you start to become (legal) positivist like this, you gradually erode any principled opposition to the positive law. Sure, your typical mainstreamer will have preferences as to what law or constitutional feature he wants. But his criticisms are ultimately flaccid and weak because they are inferior to the overarching legal positivistic assumptions. They can’t say that this positive law is unjust because it does not conform to this idea natural or moral law–since they have dismissed the latter as being unscientific and metaphysical. So they are left resorting to unprincipled, non-rigorous “balancing” tests, resort to democracy/majority vote, and utilitarian and wealth-maximization reasoning (X should be the law, not Y, because it generates more efficiency or wealth etc.).</p>
<p>And we see such things have increased with the rise of legislation as the supreme source of law. Nowadays even in common law countries legislation has come to dominate the common law as the primary source of law. In America, in a way it’s worse since at the “top” of the legislative and state-sovereignty pyramid is the Constitution. Sure, it’s said to be a “higher” law, and it’s more general, principled, and abstract than mundane statutes and legislation. But it’s just a written piece of legislation, all the same, and it enshrines in people’s minds the idea that law by its nature “comes from” the decree of some sovereign authority, namely the state and its Congress/legislature. (And as I mentioned above, a similar mistake is made by some natural law types when they say that it’s God, not the legislature, who makes the rules. This mistake is not as bad or insidious, but it’s still a mistaken notion about the nature of law, norms, and morals and right and wrong, in my view.) So then the debate becomes one about what this language in the Constitution means–not about what right and wrong is. Sure, normative and moral concerns affect the arguments they make, but they are basically arguing about what these written words mean–to determine the law.</p>
<p>As I noted in <a href="http://blog.mises.org/10838/another-problem-with-legislation-james-carter-v-the-field-codes/">Another Problem with Legislation: James Carter v. the Field Codes</a>, there is a fascinating paper published in 1884 by James C. Carter, <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/texts/carter_codification-common.pdf">The Proposed Codification of Our Common Law: A Paper Prepared at the Request of The Committee of the Bar Association of the City of New York, Appointed to Oppose the Measure</a>. This paper was an attack on David Dudley Field’s attempt to (legislatively) codify New York’s common law. Carter opposed replacing case law with centralized legislation. Carter notes that caselaw precedents are flexible and allow the judge to do justice (see also John Hasnas’s classic <a href="http://faculty.msb.edu/hasnasj/GTWebSite/MythFinalDraft.pdf">The Myth of the Rule of Law</a>), while statutes are applied literally, even where injustice is done or the legislator did not contemplate this result. Thus, Carter argues, one of the worst effects of legislatively codifying law–replacing organically developed law with artificial statutes–is that it changes the role of courts and judges from one in which the judge searches for justice into mere squabbles over definitions of words found in statutes. As he said at pp. 86-86:</p>
<blockquote><p>At present, when any doubt arises in any particular case as to what the true rule of the unwritten [i.e., judge-found, common-law developed] law is, it is at once assumed that the rule most in accordance with justice and sound policy is the one which must be declared to be the law. The search is for that rule. The appeal is squarely made to the highest considerations of morality and justice. These are the rallying points of the struggle. The contention is ennobling and beneficial to the advocates, to the judges, to the parties, to the auditors, and so indirectly to the whole community. The decision then made records another step in the advance of human reason towards that perfection after which it forever aspires. But when the law is conceded to be written down in a statute, and the only question is what the statute means, a contention unspeakably inferior is substituted. The dispute is about <em>words</em>. <strong>The question of what is right or wrong, just or unjust, is irrelevant and out of place</strong>.<strong>The only question is what has been written</strong>. What <strong>a wretched exchange for the manly encounter upon the elevated plane of principle</strong>!</p></blockquote>
<p>Or, as I note in “<a href="http://www.mises.org/journals/jls/11_2/11_2_5.pdf">Legislation and the Discovery of Law in a Free Society</a>,” <em>Journal of Libertarian Studies</em> 11 (Summer 1995), “Thus, previously, law was thought of as a body of true principles ripe for discovery by judges, not as whatever the legislator decreed. Nowadays, however, legislation has become such a ubiquitous way of making law that ‘the very idea that the law might not be identical with legislation seems odd both to students of law and to laymen.’” [Bruno Leoni, <a href="http://oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&amp;staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=920&amp;chapter=193185&amp;layout=html&amp;Itemid=27"><em>Freedom and the Law</em></a>]</p>
<p><em>This</em> is the aspect of legal positivism I despise–not the trivial idea that you can recognize a bad law as a law even though it’s bad.</p>
<p>For those who say legal positivism is only this trivial idea, they should read Hart’s <em>The Concept of Law</em>, and the various commentaries on the civil law itself. The western world’s major legal systems today are divided primarily into common-law based systems, and civil-law based systems. The civil law is based on various codification efforts, such as the French Napoleonic code, which itself was a codification of various evolved principles based ultimately on Roman law. In a sense, common law has more in common with Roman law than civil law does–both common law and Roman law were more or less decentralized, non-legislative systems–they were not dominated by legislation. The civil codes, while often elegant because they were scholarly codifications of decentrally-developed Roman law principles, exhibit a type of extreme legal positivism in that they enshrine legislation as the primary source of law–this is legislative supremacy. Sadly, however, even the elegance of the early codifications is being swamped by the rise of patchwork, artificial legislation; and even the common law is being gradually submerged in a sea of ad hoc statutes and regulations. Even in America, one of the primary “common law” countries, legislation has dwarfed it and in any case, as noted, our written Constitution at the top of the legal pyramid imbues the whole system with legal positivism similar to that of the civil law countries’ civil codes, so that the idea of natural justice and natural law and common law has become more marginalized.</p>
<p>For more commentary on this, see:</p>
<ul>
<li>my “<a href="http://www.mises.org/journals/jls/11_2/11_2_5.pdf">Legislation and the Discovery of Law in a Free Society</a>,” at footnote 5 and accompanying text et pass.: “modern civil law principles are embodied in a statute called a Civil Code, and the civil law enshrines legislation as the primary source of law.5 … 5Legislative supremacy is announced in the very first articles of the Louisiana Civil Code. Article 1 provides that “The sources of law are legislation and custom,” but article 3 makes it clear that legislation is dominant and supreme: “Custom may not abrogate legislation.”</li>
<li>Yiannopoulos, A.N., <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/texts/yiannopoulos_louisiana_civil_code.pdf">The Civil Codes of Louisiana</a> (“the Louisiana Civil Code differed from the Napoleonic Code in its approach to the fundamental matter of sources of law. The <strong>extreme legal positivism</strong> of the Code Napoleon that has <strong>elevated legislation to the status of the single source of law</strong> may be contrasted with the genius of the Louisiana Civil Code that has always recognized custom as an authoritative source of law and equity as a source for the resolution of disputes in the absence of a positive law or custom”);</li>
<li>Robert A. Pascal’s <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/texts/herman_pascal_review.pdf">Book Review</a> of Shael Herman, <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/texts/herman_louisiana-civil-code_1993.pdf"><em>The Louisiana Civil Code: A European Legacy for the United States</em></a> (1993) (“Professor Herman’s failure to see the Digest of 1808 and the Civil Code of 1825, and therefore the Revised Civil Code of 1870, as primarily Spanish law documents may be attributable to his evident passion for French Enlightenment thought, particularly its secularism, its rationalism, and its individualism, and the desire to have the Louisiana codifications envisioned in that light. It may very well be that without their rationalist spirit the French would not have attempted, much less succeeded, in stating their civil law so simply, so beautifully, and in such magnificently organized form as they did in the French Projet and in the French Civil Code. But that form could be utilized by Louisianians seeking to state the basically Spanish law as simply, as beautifully, and with as much organization, without in any way subscribing to French secularism and French<br />
<strong>legislative positivism</strong>.”);</li>
<li>Jean Louis Bergel, <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/texts/bergel_codification.pdf">Principal Features and Methods of Codification</a>, 48 La. L. Rev. 1073 (1988) (“A new code stems from the will of its authors to consecrate a doctrine and to translate a specific inspiration <strong>into positive law</strong>. Even though the innovative forces vary according to the circumstances, a true codification aims at instituting a coherent body of new or renewed legal rules destined to either establish a new legal order or to restore the preexisting order. It occurs only after a thorough research, a general reflection, and a creative effort through which choices have been made, guidelines laid down and, lastly, decisions taken. Thus, in France, the 1804 Civil Code was based on fundamental ideas which were quite new at the time: the uniformity of the law throughout the whole territory; <strong>the acknowledgement of legislation as the only real source of law</strong>; the comprehensiveness of the law regulating all social relations; the<strong>separation of law from morals, religion, and politics</strong>.”);</li>
<li>John Henry Merryman, <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/texts/merryman_civil_law.pdf">The Civil Law Tradition: An Introduction to the Legal Systems of Western Europe and Latin America</a>, 2d. ed. 1985
<ul>
<li>“Another dimension of the movement toward state positivism was provided by the secular character of the European revolution. Although there were variations in form and degree from nation to nation, the idea that law was of divine origin–whether expressed directly, as in divine (i.e. scriptural) law, or expressed indirectly through the nature of man as created by God, as in Roman Catholic natural law–now lost most of its remaining vitality. Formal respect might still be paid to the deity in the lawmaking process (as, for example, in the American Declaration of Independence), but <strong>henceforward the operating theory was that the ultimate lawmaking power lay in the state</strong>. Roman Catholic natural law had lost its power to control the prince. <strong>Secular natural law</strong>, while providing many of the ideas that were the intellectual fuel of the revolution, <strong>was ineffectual as a control on the activity of the state</strong>. It was backed by no organization and had no sanctioning power. The <strong>perennial controversy between natural lawyers and legal positivists</strong> (familiar to all students of legal philosophy) thus <strong>was decisively resolved</strong>, for operational purposes at least, <strong>in favor of the positivists</strong>. Consequently, although this debate still goes on, it <strong>has had a distinctly academic flavor since the emergence of the modern state</strong>. <strong>All Western states are positivistic</strong>.”</li>
<li>After the French Revolution, “<strong>one reason for the attempt to repeal all prior law, and thus limit the effect of law to new legislation</strong>, was <strong>statism</strong>–the glorification of the nation-state. A law that had its origins in an earlier time, before the creation of the state, violated this <strong>statist ideal</strong>.”</li>
<li>“We have seen that the role of the civil law judge is generally thought to be much more restricted and modest than that of the common law judge. It is reasonable to speak of the common law as a law of the judges, but no one would think of using such terms in speaking of the civil law. The image of the Roman <em>iudex</em>, the alleged abuses perpetrated by judges under the old regime, and the conce tion of the role of judges that emergcd in France during the revolution converge to limit what judges are supposed to do. <strong>Legislative positivism</strong>, the dogma of the separation of powers, the ideology of codification, the attitude toward interpretation of statutes, the peculiar emphasis on certainty, the denial of inherent equitable power in the judge, and the rejection of the doctrine of <em>stare decisis</em>–all these tend to <strong>diminish the judge</strong> and to <strong>glorify the legislator</strong>.”</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Shael Herman, <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/texts/herman_louisiana-civil-code_1993.pdf"><em>The Louisiana Civil Code: A European Legacy for the United States</em></a> (1993) (<strong>Centralization of Governmental Authority:</strong> “Unification of law through codification also implied <strong>political centralization</strong>with <strong>legislation as the chief source of law</strong>. Napoleon himself had <strong>elevated the legislator to the pinnacle of government</strong>. “<strong>Who has the place of God on earth?</strong>” he asked. “<strong>The legislator</strong>.” Some historians have suggested that Napoleon was referring to himself. A virtual duplication of a provision of the French <em>Projet du gouvernement</em> of 1800, Article 1 of the original Louisiana Civil Code announced <strong>the doctrine of legislative supremacy</strong>: “Law is the solemn expression of the legislative will.” In accordance with the separation of powers proposed by Montesquieu in his <em>Spirit of the Laws</em>, the legislature made laws, the judiciary interpreted them, and the executive carried them out. We know that many of the French revolutionaries admired the philosophy of Jean Jacques Rousseau. Rousseau’s vision of legislation must have figured in Napoleon’s assumptions about codification. According to Rousseau’s <em>Social Contract</em>, the legislator expressed the citizens’ general will in <strong>positive enactments</strong> and transcended the competing demands of particular interests.”);</li>
<li>my post <a href="http://blog.mises.org/10004/homesteading-abandonment-and-unowned-land-in-the-civil-law/">Homesteading, Abandonment, and Unowned Land in the Civil Law</a> (discussing the legal positivism of the civil code regarding homesteading and property ownership)</li>
</ul>
<h2><a title="Permanent link to Helpless Mainstreamers Grappling with Intellectual Property" rel="bookmark" href="http://blog.mises.org/13053/helpless-mainstreamers-grappling-with-intellectual-property/">Helpless Mainstreamers Grappling with Intellectual Property</a></h2>
<p>recent <a href="http://news.cnet.com/1606-2_3-50088776.html?tag=mncol">CNET video</a> on “Intellectual property rights vs. journalism” shows a Stanford University’s Innovation Journalism conference on June 7, with a panel discussion by various mainstreamers discussing the quesion “Is intellectual property protection a threat to journalism?” The lack of libertarian principle and sound economics has these commentators floundering as they discuss various cases where IP infringes free speech and freedom of the press. Lacking any principled approach they retreat to legal positivism, talking about how the Constitution protects both freedom of the press and speech as well as IP rights, so some “balance” must be made. Without Austrian economics and libertarian principle, even well-intentioned people, who sense that something is wrong, are helpless before the state’s propaganda and onslaught of legal positivism.</p>
<h2><a title="Permanent link to Book Review of Hoppe Festschrift" rel="bookmark" href="http://blog.mises.org/13035/book-review-of-hoppe-festschrift/">Book Review of Hoppe Festschrift</a></h2>
<p><a title="hoppe-marzipan-2010" rel="fancybox" href="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/hoppe-marzipan-2010.jpg"><img title="hoppe-marzipan-2010" src="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/hoppe-marzipan-2010-300x247.jpg" alt="" width="254" height="209" /></a>Property, Freedom, and Society: Marzipan in Honor of Hans-Hermann Hoppe</p>
<p>David Howden has written an <a href="http://pcpe.libinst.cz/nppe/5_1/nppe5_1_6.pdf">excellent review</a> of <em><a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/2009/07/29/hoppe-festschrift-published/">Property, Freedom, and Society: Essays in Honor of Hans-Hermann Hoppe</a></em> (<em>New Perspectives on Political Economy</em>, Volume 5, Number 1, 2009, pp. 73–80). Howden writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>Many academics toil a thankless life, striving for truth amid a sea of fallacies and inaccuracies. Some who do this with mediocrity are ignored. Those who do it well are often subject to intense criticism and ridicule. A select few rise to the challenge, and with conviction, carry forward – ever aiming to convince the masses that their truthful pursuit is right. Of this miniscule number of individuals, only a handful may ever reach the point where their peers recognize them for their insights, and reward their toils accordingly. Hans-Hermann Hoppe is one such individual.</p>
<p>… The collection of scholars who have come together to pay their respects reads like a veritable “who’s who” list of the world’s leading political philosophers. Hülsmann and Kinsella note in their brief introduction that after Murray Rothbard’s untimely death in 1995, Hoppe assumed a role of “uncontested leadership” among the Austro-libertarian scholars. The scope of this leadership is evident as one reads the contributions offered by his admirers in the following pages.</p>
<p>… The thirty-five contributions to his Festschrift … show the far-reaching effects that his writ- ings have had. In many diverse fields we can see the torch of Hoppean economics and political philosophy carried on. The quality of the contributions is outstanding and should result in this work being highly read and influential in furthering the Austro-libertarian research paradigm.</p>
<p>In many ways, it is unfortunate that honors such as a Festschrift come along only once a lifetime for an individual. With so many contributions currently progressing and many significant works yet to come, it will be interesting to see our <em>Herr Professor Doktor</em>’s sphere of influence grow as the years continue. Until such a time, the present work is a succinct place to read the scope and influence of Hans-Hermann Hoppe’s works over his lifetime; let’s hope that more is to follow in the future.</p></blockquote>
<p>As a piece of Festschrift trivia, as I noted in <a href="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/2010/06/16/bodrum-days-and-nights/">Bodrum Days and Nights: The Fifth Annual Meeting of the Property and Freedom Society: A Partial Report</a>, at the recent Property and Freedom Society conference in Bodrum, Turkey, a guest presented a festschrift-cake he had had made in Estonia, entitled “<em>Property, Freedom, and Society: Marzipan in Honor of Hans-Hermann Hoppe</em>,” which was served as part of the dessert at the closing banquet.</p>
<h2><a title="Permanent link to Terence Kealey: “Science is a Private Good–Or: Why Government Science is Wasteful”" rel="bookmark" href="http://blog.mises.org/13017/terence-kealey-science-is-a-private-good-%e2%80%93-or-why-government-science-is-wasteful/">Terence Kealey: “Science is a Private Good–Or: Why Government Science is Wasteful”</a></h2>
<p>I recently attended at the Fifth <a href="http://propertyandfreedom.org/meetings/">Annual Meeting</a> of the <a href="http://propertyandfreedom.org/">Property and Freedom Society</a> in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodrum">Bodrum</a>, Turkey (see my <a title="Permanent link to Bodrum Days and Nights: The  Fifth Annual Meeting of the Property and Freedom Society: A Partial  Report" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/2010/06/16/bodrum-days-and-nights/">Bodrum Days and Nights: The Fifth Annual Meeting of the Property and Freedom Society: A Partial Report</a>). I <a href="http://blog.mises.org/12995/kinsella-ideas-are-free-the-case-against-intellectual-property-or-how-libertarians-went-wrong/">delivered a speech</a> entitled “Ideas are Free: The Case Against Intellectual Property.” The speech following mine was by one<a href="http://www.buckingham.ac.uk/publicity/dofe/kealey.html" class="broken_link">Terence Kealey</a>, a biochemist at the University of Buckingham and author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0099281937/?tag=thelibestan-20"><em>Sex, Science and Profits</em></a> and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0312173067/?tag=thelibestan-20"><em>The Economic Laws of Scientific Research</em></a>. Kealey is a fantastic speaker and his fascinating, riveting talk, “Science is a Private Good – Or: Why Government Science is Wasteful” (<strong><a href="http://www.vimeo.com/12598733">video</a></strong>; <strong><a href="http://propertyandfreedom.org/media/2010-06-pfs-20-kealey.mp3">audio</a></strong>), perfectly complemented my anti-IP talk–in fact his book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0099281937/?tag=thelibestan-20"><em>Sex, Science and Profits</em></a> has a chapter calling for the abolition of patents. (The other PFS speeches (see the <a href="http://propertyandfreedom.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/pfs-2010-program-final.pdf" class="broken_link">Program</a>) are being uploaded and will be linked <a href="http://propertyandfreedom.org/meetings-and-proceedings/" class="broken_link">here</a>.)</p>
<h2><a title="Permanent link to Kinsella: Ideas are Free: The Case Against Intellectual Property: or, How Libertarians Went Wrong" rel="bookmark" href="http://blog.mises.org/12995/kinsella-ideas-are-free-the-case-against-intellectual-property-or-how-libertarians-went-wrong/">Kinsella: Ideas are Free: The Case Against Intellectual Property: or, How Libertarians Went Wrong</a></h2>
<p>Earlier this month, I spoke at the Fifth <a href="http://propertyandfreedom.org/meetings/">Annual Meeting</a> of the <a href="http://propertyandfreedom.org/">Property and Freedom Society</a> in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodrum">Bodrum</a>, Turkey (see my <a title="Permanent link to Bodrum Days and Nights: The  Fifth Annual Meeting of the Property and Freedom Society: A Partial  Report" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/2010/06/16/bodrum-days-and-nights/">Bodrum Days and Nights: The Fifth Annual Meeting of the Property and Freedom Society: A Partial Report</a>). My topic was “Ideas are Free: The Case Against Intellectual Property,” though a better title might be something like “Ideas Are Not Property: The Libertarian IP Mistake and the Structure of Human Action.” It is now available in <a href="http://propertyandfreedom.org/media/2010-06-pfs-19-kinsella.mp3">audio</a> and <a href="http://www.vimeo.com/12598892">video</a>. The other speeches (see the <a href="http://propertyandfreedom.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/pfs-2010-program-final.pdf" class="broken_link">Program</a>) are being uploaded and will be linked <a href="http://propertyandfreedom.org/meetings-and-proceedings/" class="broken_link">here</a>.</p>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/12598892">PFS 2010 – Stephan Kinsella, Ideas are Free: The Case Against Intellectual Property Rights</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/seangabb">Sean Gabb</a> on<a href="http://vimeo.com/">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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Stefan Molyneux’s “Libertarian Parenting” Series
Stefan Molyneux, of Freedomain Radio, has recently had a very interesting series of interviews on “libertarian parenting”. The three guests (so far?) were me, my fellow TLS blogger Gil Guillory, and just today, David Friedman. The MP3s for the first two, and the YouTube videos for all three, are below. All three had different perspectives but were all very practical and had tons of great tips and ideas. Gil Guillory’s mentioned several books and other resources he’s found useful in the instruction of his children. There was a critique of my discussion by one “Aaron,” an “unschooling” advocate, which was debated further on the FDR boards, and discussed subsequently by Molyneux on the FDR1698 Sunday Call In Show July 18 2010.

FDR1689 Libertarian Parenting – A Freedomain Radio Conversation with Stephan Kinsella – Two libertarian parents discuss how to best raise confident and freethinking children, including discipline without aggression, Montessori education, resolving conflicts and teaching skepticism and rationality.

FDR1693 Libertarian Parenting — A Conversation with Gil Guillory
The Best Introduction to Libertarianism Ever
I am not exaggerating: this is what Jacob Huebert’s just-published bookLibertarianism Today is. I’ve been a libertarian for over 25 years, and have read a lot of libertarian books. I am sure I was one of Laissez Faire Books‘s biggest customers in its heyday in the 80s and 90s. Among introductions to libertarianism I’ve read are Murray Rothbard’s For A New Liberty (1st ed. 1973), David Bergland’s Libertarianism in One Lesson (1st ed. 1984), David Boaz’sLibertarianism: A Primer (1997), Charles Murray’s What It Means To Be A Libertarian (1997), Jeffrey Miron’s recentLibertarianism from A to Z (2010), and probably others I’ve forgotten.

Now, among these, Rothbard’s FANL is a classic and stands out, of course. ButFANL is more of Rothbard’s own particular vision of libertarianism rather than a more comprehensive presentation of the views of the libertarian movement. And of course it is a bit dated by now, does not cover in detail topics that have risen to the fore in the intervening years (such as intellectual property, the Tea Party movement, nullification, etc.).

Given the rise of the Tea Party and the expansion of the libertarian movement in the last couple decades–and the inadequacies of other introductory books (each of them, other than FANL, has various deficiencies, although some of them are excellent and most of them worth reading too)–it was high time for a good, up to date new treatment. Huebert has done just this. I read the book in manuscript form well before its publication; I readily disclose I’m friends with Huebert (he’s also a co-blogger here at TLS). I read it with growing excitement. Here, finally, was a book that covered all the major issues, and from a solidly Austrian and anarchist-informed base–one that did not reveal (or feign) ignorance of various libertarian perspectives on issues such as democracy and decentralization and drawbacks of use of electoral politics or court battles. I’ve long maintained that an appreciation of Austrian economics is essential to sound libertarian theorizing; without it, there is always something missing; with it, a more integrated and coherent libertarian perspective is possible (and frankly I don’t see how one can be an Austrian andnot a libertarian, unless one is a misanthrope). Huebert’s book exemplifies this strength in spades. He is thoroughly familiar with Austrian economics and intertwines it throughout his analysis. Let me also say, as somewhat of a specialist on IP related matters, that Huebert’s chapter on this topic is probably the single-best concise overview and explanation of the proper Austrian-libertarian case against IP, and the related libertarian debates about this matter, that I’ve ever read.

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		<title>Examples of Ways Content Creators Can Profit Without Intellectual Property</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will collect here links to various articles or discussions about how authors, etc. can make money without relying on the copyright monopoly model. Please feel free to email suggestions or add them to the comments; I&#8217;ll update this post from time to time. Writers Can Prosper Without Intellectual Property, by Gennady Stolyarov II Innovation [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>I will collect here links to various articles or discussions about how authors, etc. can make money without relying on the copyright monopoly model. Please feel free to email suggestions or add them to the comments; I&#8217;ll update this post from time to time.</p>
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<li><a href="http://mises.org/daily/4008">Writers Can Prosper Without Intellectual Property</a>, by Gennady Stolyarov II</li>
<li><a title="Permanent link to Innovation in the gaming business model: Humble Indie Bundle" href="http://c4sif.org/2011/08/innovation-in-the-gaming-business-model-humble-indie-bundle/" rel="bookmark">Innovation in the gaming business model: Humble Indie Bundle</a> (computer games, music, and software examples)</li>
<li><a href="http://mises.org/daily/5371/How-Photographers-Can-Make-Money-without-Copyright">How Photographers Can Make Money without Copyright</a>, by Lorin Partain</li>
<li><a href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20100727/01401510369.shtml" rel="bookmark">Reminder: Big Concerts Are Not All Of The Live Music Business</a></li>
<li><a href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20100715/12213710231.shtml" rel="bookmark">Murakami Releases His Own eBook Without His Publisher</a></li>
<li>Tom Palmer, <a href="http://tomgpalmer.com/2006/09/18/technological-alternatives-to-patents-and-copyrights/">Technological Alternatives to Patents and Copyrights</a></li>
<li>Techdirt, <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/entrepreneurs/articles/20100512/0242119390.shtml">Reinventing Book Publishing: Building Real Communities, And Only Holding Rights For Three Years</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.mises.org/13286/the-creator-endorsed-mark-as-an-alternative-to-copyright/">The Creator-Endorsed Mark as an Alternative to Copyright</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.mises.org/14823/funding-for-creation-and-innovation-in-an-ip-free-world/">Funding for Creation and Innovation in an IP-Free World</a></li>
<li><strong></strong><a title="Permanent link to Unbound: connecting authors to readers to publish books with no middleman" href="http://c4sif.org/2011/06/unbound-connecting-authors-to-readers-to-publish-books-with-no-middleman/" rel="bookmark">Unbound: connecting authors to readers to publish books with no middleman</a>.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.acton.org/sites/v4.acton.org/files/pdf/4.1.112-119.CONTROVERSY.Cole,%20Julio,%20H.--Would%20the%20Absence%20of%20Copyright%20Laws%20Affect%20Literary%20Output.pdf">Would the Absence of Copyright Laws Significantly Affect the Quality and Quantity of Literary Output?</a>, Julio H. Cole</li>
<li>Boldrin and Levine <a href="http://www.dklevine.com/general/intellectual/againstfinal.htm"><em>Against Intellectual Monopoly</em></a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eazIth4orfM">Power to the Pixel 2009: Nina Paley</a> (Youtube: A FREE DISTRIBUTION CASE STUDY: SITA SINGS THE BLUES: If its free, how do you make money? Seven months after the Copyleft release of her animated musical feature Sita Sings the Blues, Nina Paley presents the second round of hard data from the project. The more the audience freely shares the film, the more they purchase DVDs, theatre admissions and merchandise. See the ££ numbers that prove it.) See also Paley&#8217;s <a href="http://media.libsyn.com/media/ftl/FTL2010-07-28.mp3">interview on FreeTalk Live on 7/28/10</a> (last 20 minutes or so); <a href="http://questioncopyright.org/understanding_free_content" rel="nofollow">Understanding Free Content</a>; and What&#8217;s Stopping You? (Competition as free <a href="http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/12/09/whats-stopping-you/" rel="nofollow">market research</a>)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/johanna_blakley_lessons_from_fashion_s_free_culture.html">Johanna Blakley: Lessons from fashion&#8217;s free culture</a> (TED Talk)</li>
<li><a href="http://flattr.com/">Flattr</a>, &#8220;a social micropayment platform that lets you show love for the things you like.&#8221;</li>
<li>Mike Masnick, TechDirt, on &#8220;pay what you want&#8221; systems: <a href="http://techdirt.com/blog/entrepreneurs/articles/20100716/17423610253.shtml" rel="bookmark">Pay What You Want Works Much Better With A Charity Component</a></li>
<li>&#8220;An Alternative Information Economy&#8221; section of <a href="http://www.n-a-n-o.com/ipr/extro2/extro2mk.html">Are &#8220;Intellectual Property Rights&#8221; Justified?</a> (2000), by Markus Krummenacker</li>
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		<itunes:summary>I will collect here links to various articles or discussions about how authors, etc. can make money without relying on the copyright monopoly model. Please feel free to email suggestions or add them to the comments; I&#039;ll update this post from time to time.

	Writers Can Prosper Without Intellectual Property, by Gennady Stolyarov II
	Innovation in the gaming business model: Humble Indie Bundle (computer games, music, and software examples)
	How Photographers Can Make Money without Copyright, by Lorin Partain
	Reminder: Big Concerts Are Not All Of The Live Music Business
	Murakami Releases His Own eBook Without His Publisher
	Tom Palmer, Technological Alternatives to Patents and Copyrights
	Techdirt, Reinventing Book Publishing: Building Real Communities, And Only Holding Rights For Three Years
	The Creator-Endorsed Mark as an Alternative to Copyright
	Funding for Creation and Innovation in an IP-Free World
	Unbound: connecting authors to readers to publish books with no middleman.
	Would the Absence of Copyright Laws Significantly Affect the Quality and Quantity of Literary Output?, Julio H. Cole
	Boldrin and Levine Against Intellectual Monopoly
	Power to the Pixel 2009: Nina Paley (Youtube: A FREE DISTRIBUTION CASE STUDY: SITA SINGS THE BLUES: If its free, how do you make money? Seven months after the Copyleft release of her animated musical feature Sita Sings the Blues, Nina Paley presents the second round of hard data from the project. The more the audience freely shares the film, the more they purchase DVDs, theatre admissions and merchandise. See the ££ numbers that prove it.) See also Paley&#039;s interview on FreeTalk Live on 7/28/10 (last 20 minutes or so); Understanding Free Content; and What&#039;s Stopping You? (Competition as free market research)
	Johanna Blakley: Lessons from fashion&#039;s free culture (TED Talk)
	Flattr, &quot;a social micropayment platform that lets you show love for the things you like.&quot;
	Mike Masnick, TechDirt, on &quot;pay what you want&quot; systems: Pay What You Want Works Much Better With A Charity Component
	&quot;An Alternative Information Economy&quot; section of Are &quot;Intellectual Property Rights&quot; Justified? (2000), by Markus Krummenacker</itunes:summary>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recently attended at the Fifth Annual Meeting of the Property and Freedom Society in Bodrum, Turkey (see my Bodrum Days and Nights: The Fifth Annual Meeting of the Property and Freedom Society: A Partial Report). I delivered a speech entitled &#8220;Ideas are Free: The Case Against Intellectual Property.&#8221; The speech following mine was by [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a rel="attachment wp-att-13018" href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/?attachment_id=13018" class="broken_link"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-13018" title="Terence Kealey" src="http://images.mises.org/blog/kealey.jpg" alt="Terence Kealey" width="218" height="182" /></a>I recently attended at the Fifth <a href="http://propertyandfreedom.org/meetings/">Annual Meeting</a> of  the <a href="http://propertyandfreedom.org/">Property and Freedom Society</a> in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodrum">Bodrum</a>, Turkey (see my <a title="Permanent link to Bodrum Days and Nights: The  Fifth Annual Meeting of the Property and Freedom Society: A Partial  Report" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/2010/06/16/bodrum-days-and-nights/">Bodrum Days and Nights: The Fifth Annual Meeting of the Property  and Freedom Society: A Partial Report</a>). I <a href="http://blog.mises.org/12995/kinsella-ideas-are-free-the-case-against-intellectual-property-or-how-libertarians-went-wrong/">delivered a speech</a> entitled &#8220;Ideas are Free: The Case Against Intellectual Property.&#8221; The speech following mine was by one <a href="http://www.buckingham.ac.uk/publicity/dofe/kealey.html" class="broken_link">Terence    Kealey</a>, a biochemist at the University of Buckingham and author of <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/http://www.amazon.com/dp/0099281937/?tag=thelibestan-20');" href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0099281937/?tag=thelibestan-20"><em>Sex,    Science and Profits</em></a> and <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/http://www.amazon.com/dp/0312173067/?tag=thelibestan-20');" href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0312173067/?tag=thelibestan-20"><em>The    Economic Laws of Scientific  Research</em></a>. Kealey is a fantastic speaker and his fascinating, riveting talk, “Science is a Private Good –    Or: Why Government Science is Wasteful” (<strong><a href="http://www.vimeo.com/12598733">video</a></strong>; <strong><a href="http://propertyandfreedom.org/media/2010-06-pfs-20-kealey.mp3">audio</a></strong>), perfectly complemented    my anti-IP talk–in fact his book <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/http://www.amazon.com/dp/0099281937/?tag=thelibestan-20');" href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0099281937/?tag=thelibestan-20"><em>Sex,   Science and Profits</em></a> has a chapter calling for the abolition of   patents. (The other PFS speeches (see the <a href="http://propertyandfreedom.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/pfs-2010-program-final.pdf" class="broken_link">Program</a>) are being uploaded and will be linked <a href="http://propertyandfreedom.org/meetings-and-proceedings/" class="broken_link">here</a>.)</p>
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		<itunes:subtitle>I recently attended at the Fifth Annual Meeting of  the Property and Freedom Society in Bodrum, Turkey (see my Bodrum Days and Nights: The Fifth Annual Meeting of the Property  and Freedom Society: A Partial Report).</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>I recently attended at the Fifth Annual Meeting of  the Property and Freedom Society in Bodrum, Turkey (see my Bodrum Days and Nights: The Fifth Annual Meeting of the Property  and Freedom Society: A Partial Report). I delivered a speech entitled &quot;Ideas are Free: The Case Against Intellectual Property.&quot; The speech following mine was by one Terence    Kealey, a biochemist at the University of Buckingham and author of Sex,    Science and Profits and The    Economic Laws of Scientific  Research. Kealey is a fantastic speaker and his fascinating, riveting talk, “Science is a Private Good –    Or: Why Government Science is Wasteful” (video; audio), perfectly complemented    my anti-IP talk–in fact his book Sex,   Science and Profits has a chapter calling for the abolition of   patents. (The other PFS speeches (see the Program) are being uploaded and will be linked here.)



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		<title>PFS Speech: Ideas are Free: The Case Against Intellectual Property: or, How Libertarians Went Wrong</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Earlier this month, I spoke at the Fifth <a href="http://propertyandfreedom.org/meetings/">Annual Meeting</a> of  the <a href="http://propertyandfreedom.org/">Property and Freedom Society</a> in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodrum">Bodrum</a>, Turkey (see my <a title="Permanent link to Bodrum Days and Nights: The  Fifth Annual Meeting of the Property and Freedom Society: A Partial  Report" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/2010/06/16/bodrum-days-and-nights/">Bodrum Days and Nights: The Fifth Annual Meeting of the Property  and Freedom Society: A Partial Report</a>). My topic was &#8220;Ideas are Free: The Case Against Intellectual Property,&#8221; though a better title might be something like &#8220;Ideas Are Not Property:  The Libertarian IP Mistake and the Structure of  Human Action.&#8221; It is now available in <a href="http://propertyandfreedom.org/media/2010-06-pfs-19-kinsella.mp3">audio</a> and <a href="http://www.vimeo.com/12598892">video</a>. (I also participated in a Q&amp;A Discussion Panel featuring &#8220;Hoppe, van Dun, DiLorenzo, Kinsella, Daniels, Kealey&#8221;- <a href="http://www.vimeo.com/12599024">video</a>.) The other speeches (see the <a href="http://propertyandfreedom.org/wp-content/docs/pfs-2010-program-final.pdf">Program</a>) are being uploaded and will be linked <a href="http://propertyandfreedom.org/meetings">here</a>.</p>
<p>Update: Transcript <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/2010/11/17/ideas-are-free-the-case-against-intellectual-property/">of the speech</a>.</p>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/12598892">PFS 2010 &#8211; Stephan Kinsella, Ideas are Free: The Case Against Intellectual Property Rights</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/seangabb">Sean Gabb</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
<p>[<a href="http://blog.mises.org/12995/kinsella-ideas-are-free-the-case-against-intellectual-property-or-how-libertarians-went-wrong/">Mises</a>; <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000003082">AM</a>]</p>
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		<itunes:summary>Earlier this month, I spoke at the Fifth Annual Meeting of  the Property and Freedom Society in Bodrum, Turkey (see my Bodrum Days and Nights: The Fifth Annual Meeting of the Property  and Freedom Society: A Partial Report). My topic was &quot;Ideas are Free: The Case Against Intellectual Property,&quot; though a better title might be something like &quot;Ideas Are Not Property:  The Libertarian IP Mistake and the Structure of  Human Action.&quot; It is now available in audio and video. (I also participated in a Q&amp;A Discussion Panel featuring &quot;Hoppe, van Dun, DiLorenzo, Kinsella, Daniels, Kealey&quot;- video.) The other speeches (see the Program) are being uploaded and will be linked here.

Update: Transcript of the speech.



PFS 2010 - Stephan Kinsella, Ideas are Free: The Case Against Intellectual Property Rights from Sean Gabb on Vimeo.

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		<title>Kinsella Discusses Environmentalism, Nuclear Power, etc. with Gene Basler</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 02:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Don&#8217;t Bet on China</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 05:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[China is widely viewed as a &#8220;threat&#8221; to the US because of its perceived rapid and unstoppable economic growth. This is, in my view, doubly confused. First: if the premise were true, this would be good, not bad. Second: I don&#8217;t think China is in such great shape. Unfortunately. Some free market economists think otherwise. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/china.gif"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1642" title="china" src="http://www.libertarianstandard.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/china-150x99.gif" alt="" width="150" height="99" /></a>China is widely viewed as a &#8220;threat&#8221; to the US because of its perceived rapid and unstoppable economic growth. This is, in my view, doubly confused. First: if the premise were true, this would be good, not bad. Second: I don&#8217;t think China is in such great shape. Unfortunately.</p>
<p>Some free market economists think otherwise. <a href="http://www.peterschiffchannel.com/2009/04/26/peter-schiff-on-china/">Peter Schiff</a> &#8220;predicts that China will overtake the U.S in terms of Gross Domestic  Product before 2020.&#8221; Jim Rogers <a href="http://www.thedailybell.com/852/Jim-Rogers-China-Opportunities-Gold-Standard-Free-Markets.html">thinks</a> &#8220;China will likely constitute tomorrow&#8217;s most powerful nation-state.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been working for years now for a company with factories and extensive dealings in Taiwan and China. It&#8217;s been my opinion for some time that China is a primitive basket case. Land is leased, not owned. The communist party corruption is everywhere. The Asian mentality is far different than the western one; they are less innovative, more subservient and servile, more order-following, more collectivist and less individualistic. Poverty and peasantry are rampant. Asians are far more racist and superstitious than Americans (everyone is more racist than Americans in my experience). You have to get permission for everything. There are currency controls. Contracts are not respected&#8211;they are signed because they are viewed as red tape and then they start being renegotiated the next day. And on and on.</p>
<p>In my view, America is, for all our faults, still, by far, the strongest and best large economy in the world. Who can match the US? Canada is too small. Japan is not quite our size and has its own problems. Europe is like an older, more kleptocratic version of the US&#8211;and is probably second best in the world. South America is a basket case of banana republics. Africa is even worse. Russia and Central Europe?&#8211;mired in pessimism and corruption and the tendrils of the wreckage of communism. Of the rest, I think India has a better chance than China, for two reasons: they speak English, and they inherited the English property rights system&#8211;unlike in China where you still have to lease land from the state for 50 years instead of buying it. And I think India is a basket case too, unlikely to improve much for many decades. So the US is and will remain preeminent, in my view&#8211;despite all our problems. (See also Jonathan Bean&#8217;s <a href="http://www.independent.org/blog/?p=4824">America’s Hidden   Strength: Babies, Immigration</a>.) Unfortunately, this will allow our parasitical state to maintain its warfare-welfare state (see my post <a href="http://blog.mises.org/3031/hoppe-on-liberal-economies-and-war/">Hoppe on Liberal Economies and War</a>).</p>
<p>An American friend of mine living in China sent me some of his thoughts, which I provide, with editing, and anonymously, below:</p>
<blockquote><p>China is [screwed], I tell you. This place is one big pile of poo. Jim Rogers and Peter Schiff are wrong, at least about China. <a href="http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/10960">Jim Chanos</a> is right! [See also <a href="http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/285686">Jim Rogers: China not in a bubble, Chanos  couldn't spell China</a>; <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/faber/faber62.1.html" class="broken_link">China May    ‘Crash’  in Next 9 to 12 Months, Faber Says</a>. Also note: Mark DeWeaver, who has written for the Mises Institute before,     recently gave a speech about Chinese monetary policy.  There's some interesting     meat in both the <a href="http://www.national-economists.org/podcasts/nec132.mp3">audio</a> and corresponding <a href="http://www.national-economists.org/gov/deweaver10.pdf">slides</a>.]<span id="more-5245"></span></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>There is sooo much unbelievable corruption here. There is very little tolerance for criticism of government policies. They are afraid of Twitter! Yep, the PRC is afraid of 140 character messages. Twitter-Facebook-Youtube: all blocked.</p>
<p>The people are ignorant peasants, and their health is terrible  too: every guy I know smokes&#8211;dude, there are 300+ million smokers in  this country. Light  it up on the bus.  Light it up in the elevator.   Light it up in the hospital.  I kid you not, I went in for cold medicine  and my doctor lit up a cigarette and asked me &#8220;what is your problem?&#8221;  Students regularly smoke during break time and come back in  smothered  in the world’s sh*ttiest cologne. But hey, I probably wouldn’t worry  either if I saw the impending <a href="http://www.economist.com/specialreports/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13888069" target="_blank">demographic time bomb</a>.</p>
<p>And  you think that is annoying?  Did you know that  during the height of stimulus  follies last year, the brilliant  officials in Hubei province actually <a href="http://www.groundreport.com/World/China-s-new-stimulus-plan-mandatory-smoking/2898263" target="_blank">mandated</a> a quota of cigarettes public workers were  supposed to consume?  You  might take the Chinese man off the farm but  you don’t take the farm out of the Chinese man.</p>
<p>The health system is in disarray.  I was very sick last summer and    visited 6 hospitals in a couple cities. These were all large centers    (both public and quasi-private) and in several of these floor after    floor had family members camping out on the ground.  Sanitation in the    bathrooms is horribad&#8230; you can smell them all the way down the hall    after coming out of the elevator.  And when you visit a doctor all the    other customers stand next to you and listen in and look at whatever  is   going on. Privacy was simply not something you had in many cases.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>I was actually very bullish on China a year or so ago and now I feel   like an idiot after having lived outside of the big metropolises.</p>
<p>I read a really good interview the other day&#8211;some American bigwig was interviewed on cctv. He mentioned just how polluted the waterways here are. Sure, this is just one small thing&#8211;but I know that in the city where I live, the river is completely untouchable. It is so unbelievably polluted with heavy metals, that the only thing that its used for is transportation of low-tech barges moving coal up and down between cities.</p>
<p>As for corruption&#8211;well, at every college, you have a two-part administration. One half of it does the typical bureaucratic stuff, and it is simply filled with Communist Party staff members. A friend who teaches told me that when he goes to a faculty dinner, he is always sitting next to the local Communist Party heads. It is bizarre&#8211;just completely dead weight. It gives you an idea of just how interconnected it is here. Imagine&#8211;Michael Moore would blow a gasket if the GOP had offices on campuses throughout the country, where curriculum had to go through them first! Here&#8217;s the CP is just one big vetting machine. Teachers are extremely and notoriously corrupt&#8211;for example, bribery is rampant, the teachers will just sell students test answers. This is very commonplace. These poor people are in a really bad place, and the current policies are not going to lead them to what Schiff and Rogers have in mind. No land of milk and honey for sure.</p>
<p>One silver lining, I suppose&#8211;they can only block ideas for so long, and wireless tech really can be a disruptive force at some point. We&#8217;ll have to wait and see. And hope.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Some other thoughts: so I&#8217;ve had a live-in girlfriend for more than a  year.  She&#8217;s not from the countryside but is from a modern-middle class  family in the south (Guangdon). And she has a brother. Everyone showers  him with love, attention, money and pretty much sh*ts on her in  comparison. And she&#8217;s hardly an exception to this very mainstream  chauvinistic thinking that permeates much of the rural peasantry.  The  stories you hear of men having 3, 4, 5+ kids until they have a boy is  not uncommon nor are the horrible stories of girls being thrown into  public waste bins or drowned in streams by angry mother-in-laws (because  they want to have grandsons as well!). So it&#8217;s not only racist, but sexist.</p>
<p>The racism is terrible too&#8211;I have a Ghanian friend, a teacher&#8211;the  Chinese people call him &#8220;demon&#8221; and &#8220;devil.&#8221; Along with my girlfriend,  I&#8217;ve traveled to several large cities with my friend from Ghana.  And  during the train rides, bus rides, taxi queues and restaurant visits,  many residents of these modern cities will murmur and not-so-murmur  slurs like &#8220;demon&#8221; and &#8220;devil.&#8221;  They&#8217;re fine and dandy with white  people (cause they all want porcelain white skin) but the slightest  shade of brown is considered lower-class &#8230; because your parents worked  outside on the farms!</p>
<p>What Hong Kong movies also fail to illustrate (much like their  Hollywood  counterparts) is that in addition to superstitions and racism, nepotism  is a huge problem here. Unfortunately most westerners have drunk the  Crouching Tiger Kool-Aid when it comes to the very primitive nature and  mindset large portions of the population still has (remember more than  50% of the population still lives in the countryside at or near  subsistence), believing that everyone here is some kind of egalitarian  calligraphy master sitting on top of mountains.</p>
<p>Modern engineering requires modern management and accounting  practices to operate, and during the industrialization and globalization  process, countries, cultures and domestic firms have to implement  meritocracy-related promotions and compensation in order to remain  competitive and solvent.  Yet, meritocracy is not part of the current  corporate culture here.  It is all about family connections if you want  to do anything because there is a ceiling you simply cannot overcome no  matter how smart or hard working you are.  Throughout the semesters I  hear demotivating stories from former students who have done internships  at companies and the nepotism that permeates State-owned enterprises.  Contracts are  easily broken if you are connected to the judicial system, a judicial  system that is not independent or transparent.  I could go on and on but  check out Andy Xie if you want the real beat on Chinese Finance.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t even get me started about trash and road side pollution or  <a href="http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/KF27Ad01.html" target="_blank">gambling</a>!</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>***</p>
<p>I’m not jaded. In fact I have a pretty comfortable life.  But I do live here, outside the big cities, which is something people like Jim Rogers or Peter Schiff don&#8217;t do.  Singapore is to China like Beverly Hills is to Compton.  And the mean, gangster-filled streets of Greenwich Connecticut are pretty divorced from the drearily decrepit dusty roads in the middle of middle-of-nowhere central China.</p>
<p>Earth to Rogers, there is a reason why there aren’t huge lines in San Francisco to get the next flight back to Zhong Guo, because anyone with half a brain makes their way to the West and not the other way around.  Chanos is right&#8211;investing in China is crazy. Of course, I like a  lot of things  in China and certainly  would recommend touring here,  but I really can&#8217;t  recommend investing in  anything, especially with  how crazy the legal  system is, the inability to own land, and so on.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Update</strong>: My correspondent sent me this followup comment:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Where the Singularity probably won&#8217;t happen: China</strong></p>
<p>So I&#8217;m catching up on some online reading and was reading the winter 2009  edition of <em>Human Plus</em>.  Among other articles this one stuck out: “<a href="http://www.hplusmagazine.com/articles/ai/chinese-singularity" target="_blank">The Chinese Singularity</a>”</p>
<p>There have been few things I&#8217;ve read in the past year that have inspired  me to write, this one is one of them. For instance:</p>
<p>The first page (at least if you&#8217;re reading the pdf) is pretty funny  because this writer (Ben Goertzel) and the professor he interviews (Hugo de  Garis) literally think that China&#8217;s GDP growth numbers are not only real but genuinely  reflect productive economic activity.</p>
<p>I think investor Jim Chanos is right: if you don&#8217;t believe central  planning works for health care or any other industry in the West, then there is  little reason to believe Politburo-style planning will work either.   Furthermore, as Chanos and others have <a href="http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/10960" target="_blank">noted</a>, half of China&#8217;s official GDP comes from construction-related activity.  Once that bubble blows up it will be even harder to cook the (macro)  books and suggest that GDP growth = engineering prowess.</p>
<p>In addition, I believe there are fundamental differences that explain  the relative &#8220;successes&#8221; of state-sponsored labs like Fraunhofer/DARPA compared to Chinese ones that have contributed very little to the corpus  of engineering: it is not so much funding as it cultural.  By cultural I  mean meritocracy versus nepotism and risk-taking versus conservative carbon-copying.  Furthermore as detailed annually in <em>R&amp;D Magazine</em> (<a href="http://www.battelle.org/news/pdfs/2009RDFundingfinalreport.pdf" target="_blank">pdf</a>), the vast majority of R&amp;D in developed countries still takes place  through the private-sector (for instance, HP Labs and the memristor, Google Labs  and Pagerank, Intel Labs and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Tick-Tock" target="_blank">tick-tock</a>).</p>
<p>In 2007, <em>R&amp;D Magazine</em> notes that the sum total of R&amp;D in the  US amounted to 2.62% of total GDP.  Japan was 3.33% and China came in at 1.43%.  In terms of Gross Domestic Expenditure on R&amp;D, the US spent $362  billion in 2007, Japan $142 billion and China $100 billion.</p>
<p>Ignoring ratios, the most striking illustration in the 2009 report  relevant to this discussion is on page 22.  For roughly 20 years US government  funding of R&amp;D has remained relatively stagnant at around $75 billion a  year.  Conversely industrial (private) funding of US R&amp;D has risen to more  than $200 billion a year.  And it was during this time frame that both the information and silicon ages ushered in all the whiz bang stuff that  Futurists (such as Goertzel and de Garis) point to as part of their &#8220;accelerating future&#8221; mantra.</p>
<p>Both Goertzel and de Garis seem to believe that pumping massive amounts of  capital into &#8220;basic&#8221; science research is needed and that the Chinese government should do it.  However, <em>R&amp;D Magazine</em> also notes  that &#8220;[s]ince 1981, about 75% of industrial R&amp;D performance has been  devoted to development, and about 5% and 20% directed towards basic and applied research, respectively.&#8221;  In contrast, federal R&amp;D funding for both academia and non-profit organizations have focused primarily on  basic research (70% for the former, 55% for the latter).</p>
<p>Yes, contrary to what these two futurists would suggest, throwing money  at projects is not the most effective way to achieve goals.</p>
<p>Thus, if you were to draw conclusions from these statistics:</p>
<p>1) Over the past three decades it is private industry not the government  that continues to create disruptive and innovative products to the benefit of consumers.  If one were to scan the isles of Best Buy, private industry  undoubtedly is the game changer and inventor, not NASA.</p>
<p>2) The private industry &#8212; which has a vested interest in not going bankrupt by continuously satiating consumer wants &#8212; clearly believes  that funding development (e.g. commercialization) is much more effective way  to grow and expand than throwing large sums of capital at basic research worthy  of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ig_Nobel_Prize" target="_blank">Ig Nobel</a> (that’s not the one you want on your  resume).</p>
<p>Comically towards the end, the author suggests that &#8220;The Chinese government should create a Chinese Artificial Brain Administration&#8230;&#8221;  Just like we needed to a have an American CPU Administration, American OS Administration, American RAM  Administration.  Where would we be with&#8230; them!  In fact, I would argue that the industries that have had historically low rates of disruption and  innovation (wireless and rocket-systems) have been those industries regulated with  well-meaning government administrations (FCC, NASA).</p>
<p>And I’m hardly the only one who sees these Sino-tech problems for what they  are: big problems.  TechCrunch recently updated netizens to the Geeks-on-a-Plane project (nutshell: engineers and VCs  that globe trot professionally) and they recently attended two tech expos in China.  Here is what they <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/30/geeksonaplance-at-the-gmic-and-chinict-tech-conferences-in-beijing-learnings-from-china/" target="_blank">said</a>:</p>
<p>But Silicon Valley and the planet’s other technology hotbeds still have a  bit of time to breathe before the dragon takes over, as even in China’s  web market all’s not well. The GOAP heard local mobile and web  entrepreneurs and VCs deploring the</p>
<ul>
<li> lack of valid industry data across a number of tech sectors</li>
<li> strict legal and political frameworks (one industry veteran told me  he checks if his popular micro-blogging service is still online every  morning, as Twitter is blocked by the government)</li>
<li> low online  spend (just one telling example: the ARPU in China’s  social gaming sector is said to be 5-20 times lower than in the US and  other regions)</li>
<li>insufficient online payment systems (still low  circulation  of  credit cards hampers growth in e-commerce and other areas)</li>
<li>overheated  VC market</li>
<li>trouble for young startups to find seed capital and  angel investors</li>
<li>lack of competent staff (especially engineers)</li>
<li>propensity of highly skilled team members to quickly quit even  successful startups to join others or set up their own</li>
<li>lack of  innovative power in the industry (Korea invented the virtual  goods-based business model, Japan invented the mobile web, and China?)</li>
<li>rampant  copycat culture (which is <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2007/05/14/web-2-in-germany-copy-paste-innovation-or-more/" target="_blank">not  really</a> a China-only phenomenon)</li>
<li>fierce domestic competitive  environment in the mobile and web fields</li>
<li>and other factors (for  example, copyright problems or the fact that  no foreign entrepreneur- <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/20/zynga-enters-asia-with-acquisition-of-gaming-startup-xpd-media-opens-office-in-beijing/" target="_blank">with  one exception</a> – has realized a sizable exit in China so far).</li>
</ul>
<p>In conclusion, if various branches of the Chinese government do end up  taking Goerzel’s and de Garis’s advice and centralize &#8220;singularity&#8221;-related innovation then it’s probably a safe bet that the AI-based singularity will not  take place here.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Update 3</strong>: My correspondent sends me this: &#8220;So I have a friend who is a proper American professor teaching out in a  large city in the Northeast of China, he recently said the following:</p>
<blockquote><p>As I may have mentioned to you before, I  believe strongly in free  markets and laissez-faire capitalism. In fact, part of what brought me  here was the misapprehension that China is moving towards more and more  free markets, while America unfortunately is moving away from them. So I  entirely agree with your remarks about the centrally-planned economy in  China.</p>
<div>I&#8217;ve been going through a fairly significant  disillusionment recently, as I realize how centrally-controlled the  economy still is here. The supposed free market is really more like the  &#8220;freedom&#8221; to escape controls by bribing the authorities, which isn&#8217;t  really a free market at all. That&#8217;s pretty much what BP had going for it  in the Gulf, and look where that led.</div>
<div></div>
<div>As for GDP numbers, they are indeed laughable. To  take just one example, our university has a building that was  constructed less than five years ago. It&#8217;s lovely from the street, but  up close you can see rust stains where the rebar isn&#8217;t sealed properly.  That&#8217;s going to have to be repaired soon, at a cost probably greater  than the original cost of the building.</div>
<div></div>
<div>The gypsum wallboards inside all the hallways of the  building are severely bowed and discolored from the humidity. I thought  they must be 20 years old, which didn&#8217;t make sense because the building  is new. A colleague of mine told me that, no, the gypsum-board was  replaced just over a year ago. But it was replaced with such shoddy  goods that it&#8217;s already in need of a second replacement.</div>
<div></div>
<div>The reason I bring this up, is that the GDP of our  local economy will almost certainly show growth when someone is paid big  money to come in and repair the building &#8212; but in fact, there is no  growth at all.</div>
<div></div>
<div>That said, I can definitely see improvement in the  overall conditions of life in XXXXX. The city center is rebuilding,  much nicer than it was before, and the shoreline is developing some  really lovely areas that didn&#8217;t exist before. There definitely is growth  here, but the evidence of it is what my eyes can see, not what  governmental GDP numbers tell me.</div>
<div></div>
<div>So far, the Chinese economy has been sustained by  the willingness of Chinese laborers to work like mules for minimal pay,  with only the smallest improvements as their incentive. They&#8217;ve got  thousands of years of culture encouraging that mule-like attitude: the  unwillingness to question authority, the acceptance of life as it is,  the willingness to live with contradictions. But that can only take a  country so far, and then something has to change.</div>
<div></div>
<div>I just signed my next-year contract, for a sizable  increase in pay and an equally sizable decrease in teaching hours. My  immediate future looks very bright, indeed. But as for China, I don&#8217;t  expect much. I hope they can muddle through, with neither an economic  collapse nor a catastrophic revolution.</div>
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		<itunes:subtitle>China is widely viewed as a &quot;threat&quot; to the US because of its perceived rapid and unstoppable economic growth. This is, in my view, doubly confused. First: if the premise were true, this would be good, not bad.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>China is widely viewed as a &quot;threat&quot; to the US because of its perceived rapid and unstoppable economic growth. This is, in my view, doubly confused. First: if the premise were true, this would be good, not bad. Second: I don&#039;t think China is in such great shape. Unfortunately.

Some free market economists think otherwise. Peter Schiff &quot;predicts that China will overtake the U.S in terms of Gross Domestic  Product before 2020.&quot; Jim Rogers thinks &quot;China will likely constitute tomorrow&#039;s most powerful nation-state.&quot;

I&#039;ve been working for years now for a company with factories and extensive dealings in Taiwan and China. It&#039;s been my opinion for some time that China is a primitive basket case. Land is leased, not owned. The communist party corruption is everywhere. The Asian mentality is far different than the western one; they are less innovative, more subservient and servile, more order-following, more collectivist and less individualistic. Poverty and peasantry are rampant. Asians are far more racist and superstitious than Americans (everyone is more racist than Americans in my experience). You have to get permission for everything. There are currency controls. Contracts are not respected--they are signed because they are viewed as red tape and then they start being renegotiated the next day. And on and on.

In my view, America is, for all our faults, still, by far, the strongest and best large economy in the world. Who can match the US? Canada is too small. Japan is not quite our size and has its own problems. Europe is like an older, more kleptocratic version of the US--and is probably second best in the world. South America is a basket case of banana republics. Africa is even worse. Russia and Central Europe?--mired in pessimism and corruption and the tendrils of the wreckage of communism. Of the rest, I think India has a better chance than China, for two reasons: they speak English, and they inherited the English property rights system--unlike in China where you still have to lease land from the state for 50 years instead of buying it. And I think India is a basket case too, unlikely to improve much for many decades. So the US is and will remain preeminent, in my view--despite all our problems. (See also Jonathan Bean&#039;s America’s Hidden   Strength: Babies, Immigration.) Unfortunately, this will allow our parasitical state to maintain its warfare-welfare state (see my post Hoppe on Liberal Economies and War).

An American friend of mine living in China sent me some of his thoughts, which I provide, with editing, and anonymously, below:
China is [screwed], I tell you. This place is one big pile of poo. Jim Rogers and Peter Schiff are wrong, at least about China. Jim Chanos is right! [See also Jim Rogers: China not in a bubble, Chanos  couldn&#039;t spell China; China May    ‘Crash’  in Next 9 to 12 Months, Faber Says. Also note: Mark DeWeaver, who has written for the Mises Institute before,     recently gave a speech about Chinese monetary policy.  There&#039;s some interesting     meat in both the audio and corresponding slides.]
There is sooo much unbelievable corruption here. There is very little tolerance for criticism of government policies. They are afraid of Twitter! Yep, the PRC is afraid of 140 character messages. Twitter-Facebook-Youtube: all blocked.

The people are ignorant peasants, and their health is terrible  too: every guy I know smokes--dude, there are 300+ million smokers in  this country. Light  it up on the bus.  Light it up in the elevator.   Light it up in the hospital.  I kid you not, I went in for cold medicine  and my doctor lit up a cigarette and asked me &quot;what is your problem?&quot;  Students regularly smoke during break time and come back in  smothered  in the world’s sh*ttiest cologne. But hey, I probably wouldn’t worry  either if I saw the impending demographic time bomb.

And  you think that is annoying?  Did you know that  during the height of stimulus  follies last year,</itunes:summary>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fellow guest Becky Akers and I discussed anarchy, the role of education in fighting statism, and related matters, with host Don Cooper on his Qaoss Talk Radio show, April 10, 2010. The show is archived here (local MP3).]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 15:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From Stefan Molyneux&#8217;s post on the Mises forum: The Freedomain Radio Book Club had a great discussion with Stephan about intellectual property which I thought you might enjoy&#8230; FDR1616 Stephan Kinsella on Intellectual Property from Freedomain Radio Play Now We did this yesterday, Mar. 20, 2010. It was about an hour and was a nice, [...]]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>The Freedomain Radio Book Club had a great discussion with Stephan  about intellectual property which I thought you might enjoy&#8230;</p>
<h4><a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/%7Er/FreedomainRadioVolume5/%7E3/8TLoNTYvhFc/FDR_1616_stephan_kinsella_intellectual_property.mp3">FDR1616   Stephan Kinsella on Intellectual Property from Freedomain Radio</a></h4>
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<p>We did this yesterday, Mar. 20, 2010. It was about an hour and was a nice, intelligent discussion of IP and related libertarian issues. (<a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/media/FDR_1616_stephan_kinsella_intellectual_property-2010-03-20.mp3">Local MP3 file</a> &#8212; 59MB)</p>
<p>[<a href="http://blog.mises.org/12269/kinsella-intellectual-property-discussion-on-freedomain-radio-book-club/">Mises</a>; <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000002708">AM</a>]</p>
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			<itunes:subtitle>From Stefan Molyneux&#039;s post on the Mises forum: The Freedomain Radio Book Club had a great discussion with Stephan  about intellectual property which I thought you might enjoy... FDR1616   Stephan Kinsella on Intellectual Property from Freedomain Rad...</itunes:subtitle>
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The Freedomain Radio Book Club had a great discussion with Stephan  about intellectual property which I thought you might enjoy...
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<itunes:subtitle>TCLP 2010-02-24 Interview: Nina Paley This is a feature cast, an episode of The Command Line Podcast. - No listener feedback this week. - Due to the length of the interview, there is also no new hacker word of the week this week. - </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>TCLP 2010-02-24 Interview: Nina Paley


This is a feature cast, an episode of The Command Line Podcast.

No listener feedback this week.

Due to the length of the interview, there is also no new hacker word of the week this week.

The feature this week is an interview with cartoonist and animator, Nina Paley, creator of “Sita Sings the Blues“. I’ve spoken and written about Nina’s story before, the troubles clearing her use of Annette Hanshaw’s torch songs that led her to work with Karl Fogel at QuestionCopyright.org. In the course of the interview, we also mention the store for “Sita” merchandise , the creator endorsed mark, “Minute Memes“, the “Sita” soundtrack by Todd Michaelsen, “Sita” on a persistence of vision wheel based display, and Bill Cheswick’s poster made from every frame of “Sita”. Sadly, by the time you hear this, you’ll have missed her talk at AU but I discuss it a bit in the intro to this episode.


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		<title>Antiwar Interview: Kinsella on Bill of Rights, Intellectual Property</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 17:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Antiwar Radio: Stephan Kinsella Antiwar Radio: Stephan Kinsella Posted by Scott in February 11th, 2010 No Comments Yet Posted in: Uncategorized Tags: Antiwar Radio, Scott-Horton, Stephan Kinsella Stephan Kinsella, fellow at the Mises Institute and author of the book Against Intellectual Property [.pdf], discusses the federal government’s appropriation of the Bill of Rights – through the [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="../">Stephan Kinsella</a>, fellow at the <a href="http://mises.org/">Mises Institute</a> and author of the book <a href="http://mises.org/journals/jls/15_2/15_2_1.pdf"><em>Against Intellectual Property</em></a> [.pdf], discusses the federal government’s appropriation of the Bill of Rights – through the 14th Amendment – to regulate state powers, the debate about whether current lawlessness can rightfully be blamed on deviation from the beneficent Constitution or if the problem lies in the deeply flawed document itself and why ideas can’t be property.</p>
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Stephan Kinsella, fellow at the Mises Institute and author of the book Against Intellectual Property [.pdf], discusses the federal government’s appropriation of the Bill of Rights – through the 14th Amendment – to regulate state powers, the debate about whether current lawlessness can rightfully be blamed on deviation from the beneficent Constitution or if the problem lies in the deeply flawed document itself and why ideas can’t be property.

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		<title>Jeff Tucker Free Talk Live Interview on Open Information and IP</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeff Tucker was interviewed yesterday by Mark Edge, as part of his “Edgington Post Interview Series,” for his Free Talk Live radio show, about the Mises Institute&#8217;s &#8220;open information&#8221; approach (see Jeff Tucker, A Theory of Open, B.K. Marcus, Mises.org on iTunes U, Doug French, The Intellectual Revolution Is in Process). The interview is lasts [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Jeff Tucker was interviewed yesterday by Mark Edge, as part of his “Edgington Post  Interview Series,” for his <a href="http://www.freetalklive.com/"><em>Free  Talk Live</em></a> radio show, about the Mises Institute&#8217;s &#8220;open information&#8221; approach (see Jeff Tucker, <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/011401.asp">A  Theory of Open</a>, B.K. Marcus, <a title="&quot;Mises.org on iTunes U&quot; by B.K.   Marcus" href="http://mises.org/daily/4027">Mises.org on iTunes U</a>, Doug French, <a href="http://mises.org/daily/3943">The Intellectual  Revolution Is in Process</a>). The interview is lasts about 24 minutes, and starts at  2:52:07 in the <a href="http://media.libsyn.com/media/ftl/FTL2010-02-08.mp3">Feb. 8, 2010 show</a>. Tucker makes some great points, such as his idea that perhaps the antitrust law prevented movie studios from  owning the theaters and thus may have made them less likely to be  willing to consider online distribution models; and his example of how the <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/011490.asp">Cantor-Cox book</a>, which was released for free online months before the paper version, helped to create a ready-made audience for the paper book.</p>
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		<itunes:summary>Jeff Tucker was interviewed yesterday by Mark Edge, as part of his “Edgington Post  Interview Series,” for his Free  Talk Live radio show, about the Mises Institute&#039;s &quot;open information&quot; approach (see Jeff Tucker, A  Theory of Open, B.K. Marcus, Mises.org on iTunes U, Doug French, The Intellectual  Revolution Is in Process). The interview is lasts about 24 minutes, and starts at  2:52:07 in the Feb. 8, 2010 show. Tucker makes some great points, such as his idea that perhaps the antitrust law prevented movie studios from  owning the theaters and thus may have made them less likely to be  willing to consider online distribution models; and his example of how the Cantor-Cox book, which was released for free online months before the paper version, helped to create a ready-made audience for the paper book.

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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was interviewed yesterday by Mark Edge, as part of his &#8220;Edgington Post Interview Series,&#8221; for his Free Talk Live radio show, about my Mises Daily article, &#8220;Reducing the Cost of IP Law.&#8221; The interview is lasts about 35 minutes, and starts at 2:02:36 in the Jan. 20, 2010 show (MP3). Edge conducted an excellent [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>I was interviewed yesterday by Mark Edge, as part of his &#8220;Edgington Post Interview Series,&#8221; for his <a href="http://www.freetalklive.com/"><em>Free Talk Live</em></a> radio show, about my <em>Mises Daily</em> article, &#8220;<a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/011451.asp">Reducing the Cost of IP Law</a>.&#8221; The interview is lasts about 35 minutes, and starts at 2:02:36 in the <a href="http://cdn1.libsyn.com/ftl/FTL2010-01-20.mp3?nvb=20100121151243&amp;nva=20100122152243&amp;t=01011103465c99165e098">Jan. 20, 2010 show</a> (<a href="http://media.libsyn.com/media/ftl/FTL2010-01-20.mp3">MP3</a>). Edge conducted an excellent interview&#8211;very informed and interesting. And, <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/011288.asp">like many others</a>, he&#8217;s come around to the anti-IP position.</p>
<p>[<a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/011509.asp">Mises</a>; <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000002357">AM</a>]</p>
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			<itunes:subtitle>I was interviewed yesterday by Mark Edge, as part of his &quot;Edgington Post Interview Series,&quot; for his Free Talk Live radio show, about my Mises Daily article, &quot;Reducing the Cost of IP Law.&quot; The interview is lasts about 35 minutes,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>I was interviewed yesterday by Mark Edge, as part of his &quot;Edgington Post Interview Series,&quot; for his Free Talk Live radio show, about my Mises Daily article, &quot;Reducing the Cost of IP Law.&quot; The interview is lasts about 35 minutes, and starts at 2:02:36 in the Jan. 20, 2010 show (MP3). Edge conducted an excellent interview--very informed and interesting. And, like many others, he&#039;s come around to the anti-IP position.

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		<title>Tom Paine, Statist</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great comment about Thomas Paine by Bill Stepp on this thread: Paine forfeited his copyright in &#8220;Common Sense&#8221; so that any printer could publish it (this was prompted by a dispute with his printer, if memory servies), but he later defended copyright. For what it&#8217;s worth, he also defended the evil Pennsylvania Test Oaths, and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><div><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Paine"><img class="alignright" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/Thomas_Paine.jpg/200px-Thomas_Paine.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="260" /></a>Great comment about <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Paine">Thomas Paine</a> by Bill Stepp on this <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000001988">thread</a>:</div>
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<blockquote><p>Paine forfeited his copyright in &#8220;Common Sense&#8221; so that any printer could publish it (this was prompted by a dispute with his printer, if memory servies), but he later defended copyright. For what it&#8217;s worth, he also defended the evil Pennsylvania Test Oaths, and expounded a variant of socialism in land in &#8220;Agrarian Justice.&#8221; A few more libertarians like Paine, and we&#8217;ll be laboring in slave camps.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>I could never figure out why libertarians are so quick to embrace Paine (ditto for Andrew Jackson, who didn&#8217;t put an end to the 2BUS for any high-minded libertarian reasons, but so that its deposits would go into the pet banks owned by his political backers and cronies).</p></blockquote>
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<p>See also <a href="http://mydd.com/users/yodafone/posts/paine-was-a-socialist">Paine Was A Socialist</a>. But see Jeff Tucker&#8217;s <a href="http://blog.mises.org/8085/x-treme-thomas-paine/#comment-254899">comments</a> to X-Treme Thomas Paine, where he writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>I’m not a Paine scholar but it seems obvious that the application of his principles ebb and flowed a bit here and there. He wrote in favor of the inheritance tax after he exiled from England and before his arrest in France. I do know this: he is one of the greatest champions of liberty ever. No one of his generation wrote as powerfully on the relationship between the individual and the state; and I also know that it is extremely difficult to find any thinker in any country who pure by modern standards who wrote before the age of Rothbard. So give the guy a break and learn what you can from him.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Update</strong>: See Paine&#8217;s complete writings, <a href="http://mises.org/resources/3516/The-Complete-Writings-of-Thomas-Paine-Volume-1">here</a>; and also the fascinating series of V76 lectures by Andrew Galambos, which focused on the signifance of Paine&#8217;s thought and his crucial role in the American Revolution (and Galambos&#8217;s contention that Paine was the actual author of the Declaration of Independence, not merely its intellectual inspiration). They can all be downloaded from <a href="http://www.archive.org/details/SanfordStaabPrinciplesInLiberty56">this link</a>, and below:</p>
<blockquote><p>Andrew J. Galambos (http://www.galambos.com)<br />
V76 Lectures<br />
1 &#8211; <a href="http://www.truthseeker.com/galambos/audio/01-Track%201.mp3">http://www.truthseeker.com/galambos/audio/01-Track%201.mp3</a><br />
2 &#8211; <a href="http://www.truthseeker.com/galambos/audio/02-Track%201.mp3" class="broken_link">http://www.truthseeker.com/galambos/audio/02-Track%201.mp3</a><br />
3 &#8211; <a href="http://www.truthseeker.com/galambos/audio/03-Track%201.mp3" class="broken_link">http://www.truthseeker.com/galambos/audio/03-Track%201.mp3</a><br />
4 &#8211; <a href="http://www.truthseeker.com/galambos/audio/04-Track%201.mp3" class="broken_link">http://www.truthseeker.com/galambos/audio/04-Track%201.mp3</a><br />
5 &#8211; <a href="http://www.truthseeker.com/galambos/audio/05-Track%201.mp3" class="broken_link">http://www.truthseeker.com/galambos/audio/05-Track%201.mp3</a><br />
6 &#8211; <a href="http://www.truthseeker.com/galambos/audio/06-Track%201.mp3" class="broken_link">http://www.truthseeker.com/galambos/audio/06-Track%201.mp3</a><br />
7 &#8211; <a href="http://www.truthseeker.com/galambos/audio/07-Track%201.mp3" class="broken_link">http://www.truthseeker.com/galambos/audio/07-Track%201.mp3</a></p></blockquote>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Great comment about Thomas Paine by Bill Stepp on this thread: - Paine forfeited his copyright in &quot;Common Sense&quot; so that any printer could publish it (this was prompted by a dispute with his printer, if memory servies), but he later defended copyright.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Great comment about Thomas Paine by Bill Stepp on this thread:

Paine forfeited his copyright in &quot;Common Sense&quot; so that any printer could publish it (this was prompted by a dispute with his printer, if memory servies), but he later defended copyright. For what it&#039;s worth, he also defended the evil Pennsylvania Test Oaths, and expounded a variant of socialism in land in &quot;Agrarian Justice.&quot; A few more libertarians like Paine, and we&#039;ll be laboring in slave camps.
I could never figure out why libertarians are so quick to embrace Paine (ditto for Andrew Jackson, who didn&#039;t put an end to the 2BUS for any high-minded libertarian reasons, but so that its deposits would go into the pet banks owned by his political backers and cronies).

See also Paine Was A Socialist. But see Jeff Tucker&#039;s comments to X-Treme Thomas Paine, where he writes:
I’m not a Paine scholar but it seems obvious that the application of his principles ebb and flowed a bit here and there. He wrote in favor of the inheritance tax after he exiled from England and before his arrest in France. I do know this: he is one of the greatest champions of liberty ever. No one of his generation wrote as powerfully on the relationship between the individual and the state; and I also know that it is extremely difficult to find any thinker in any country who pure by modern standards who wrote before the age of Rothbard. So give the guy a break and learn what you can from him.
Update: See Paine&#039;s complete writings, here; and also the fascinating series of V76 lectures by Andrew Galambos, which focused on the signifance of Paine&#039;s thought and his crucial role in the American Revolution (and Galambos&#039;s contention that Paine was the actual author of the Declaration of Independence, not merely its intellectual inspiration). They can all be downloaded from this link, and below:
Andrew J. Galambos (http://www.galambos.com)
V76 Lectures
1 - http://www.truthseeker.com/galambos/audio/01-Track%201.mp3
2 - http://www.truthseeker.com/galambos/audio/02-Track%201.mp3
3 - http://www.truthseeker.com/galambos/audio/03-Track%201.mp3
4 - http://www.truthseeker.com/galambos/audio/04-Track%201.mp3
5 - http://www.truthseeker.com/galambos/audio/05-Track%201.mp3
6 - http://www.truthseeker.com/galambos/audio/06-Track%201.mp3
7 - http://www.truthseeker.com/galambos/audio/07-Track%201.mp3</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Kinsella IP Interview on The Peter Mac Show</title>
		<link>http://www.stephankinsella.com/2009/11/kinsella-ip-interview-on-the-peter-mac-show/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Kinsella</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Intellectual Property]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was invited to be a guest on The Peter Mac Show last night and ended up staying on for both hours. It was a pretty in-depth interview. The host asked impressively intelligent questions for someone who had just started coming around to the anti-IP position (after reading my Intellectual Property and Libertarianism just the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>I was invited to be a guest on <a href="http://www.petermacshow.com/">The Peter Mac Show</a> last night and ended up staying on for both hours. It was a pretty in-depth interview. The host asked impressively intelligent questions for someone who had just started coming around to the anti-IP position (after reading my <a href="http://mises.org/daily/3863">Intellectual Property and Libertarianism</a> just the day before (!)). The MP3 files are here: <a href="http://libertynewsradio.com/shows/tms/tms20091121a.mp3" class="broken_link">hour 1</a>; <a href="http://libertynewsradio.com/shows/tms/tms20091121b.mp3" class="broken_link">hour 2</a> (on Peter&#8217;s site, <a href="http://www.petermacshow.com/show-archive/65-stephan-kinsella-11212009-hr-1.html">hour 1</a>, <a href="http://www.petermacshow.com/show-archive/66-stephan-kinsella-11212009-hr-2.html">hour 2</a>). [Local files: <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/media/kinsella-peter-mac-2009-11-21-1.mp3">hour 1</a>; <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/media/kinsella-peter-mac-2009-11-21-2.mp3">hour 2</a>]</p>
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			<itunes:subtitle>I was invited to be a guest on The Peter Mac Show last night and ended up staying on for both hours. It was a pretty in-depth interview. The host asked impressively intelligent questions for someone who had just started coming around to the anti-IP pos...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>I was invited to be a guest on The Peter Mac Show last night and ended up staying on for both hours. It was a pretty in-depth interview. The host asked impressively intelligent questions for someone who had just started coming around to the anti-IP position (after reading my Intellectual Property and Libertarianism just the day before (!)). The MP3 files are here: hour 1; hour 2 (on Peter&#039;s site, hour 1, hour 2). [Local files: hour 1; hour 2]</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Obama Deserves the Nobel–or Two!</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Kinsella</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Manuel, Lew, David &#8212; Yes, we should not be surprised at this. Hans Hoppe once noted that f you want to win the Nobel peace prize, it helps if you are a mass murderer; if you want to win the economics Nobel prize, it is always of advantage if you have contributed to ruining various [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/38830.html">Manuel</a>, <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/38856.html">Lew</a>, <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/38861.html">David</a> &#8212; Yes, we should not be surprised at this. Hans Hoppe once noted that f you want to win the Nobel peace prize, it helps if you are a mass murderer; if you want to win the economics Nobel prize, it is always of advantage if you have contributed to ruining various countries&#8217; economies or you have written completely irrelevant mathematical treatises that are of no concern to anyone whatsoever (he also notes that the economics prize is donated by the Swedish central bank and the committee members are life-long appointees and except for two years social democrats have run the show so that it is roughly predictable who can possibly win the prize; thus, James Buchanan has advocated a 100% inheritance tax and is hailed as a free marketeer, so he can win; Milton Friedman, a free marketeer who fought for paper money all his life, endorsed the negative income tax (guaranteed income), educational vouchers (like food stamps for education), can of course win. I.e., socialists can win and be presented to the public as free marketeers. See Hoppe&#8217;s Mises University 2001 lecture &#8220;<a href="http://www.mises.org/mp3/MU2001/MU01.mp3">Mises and the Foundation of Austrian Economics</a>&#8220;, at about 1:10:20 to 1:12:. See also Hoppe&#8217;s ruminations on the Nobel in economics <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/010790.asp">here</a>.)</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say I relish confronting even more smug, preening Obamaites, though. One solution would be to just award Obama the Nobel prize in economics too&#8211;that would help smash the credibility of both prizes.</p>
<p>Update: See Roderick Long&#8217;s <a href="http://praxeology.net/unblog12-03.htm#04">post</a> from 2003:</p>
<blockquote><p>
<img src="http://praxeology.net/arafat.gif" alt="" align="left" />A lot of people were outraged when <a href="http://www.nobel.se/peace/laureates/1994/arafat-bio.html">Yasser Arafat</a> won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1994 – a choice which people are <a href="http://www.almaz.com/nobel/wwwboard/messages/189.html" class="broken_link">still protesting</a>.</p>
<p>I’m no fan of Arafat, but look at the <a href="http://www.nobel.se/peace/laureates/index.html">list of folks</a> he shares that dubious honour with. There are certainly some good people on that list (including, I believe, the only libertarian: French economist <a href="http://www.nobel.se/peace/laureates/1901/passy-bio.html">Frédéric Passy</a>, recipient of the very first prize in 1901, and perhaps the only person ever to <a href="http://herve.dequengo.free.fr/Molinari/EO/EO.htm">accuse <em>Gustave de Molinari</em> of not being sufficiently libertarian!</a>), but it also includes such pestilent warmongers as:</p>
<p>Theodore Roosevelt – 1906<br />
Woodrow Wilson – 1919<br />
Henry Kissinger – 1973<br />
Mikhail Gorbachev – 1990As far as I’m concerned, the Nobel Peace Prize became meaningless as of 1906.  Arafat is welcome to it.</p></blockquote>
<p>[<a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/38909.html">LRC</a>]</p>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Manuel, Lew, David -- Yes, we should not be surprised at this. Hans Hoppe once noted that f you want to win the Nobel peace prize, it helps if you are a mass murderer; if you want to win the economics Nobel prize,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Manuel, Lew, David -- Yes, we should not be surprised at this. Hans Hoppe once noted that f you want to win the Nobel peace prize, it helps if you are a mass murderer; if you want to win the economics Nobel prize, it is always of advantage if you have contributed to ruining various countries&#039; economies or you have written completely irrelevant mathematical treatises that are of no concern to anyone whatsoever (he also notes that the economics prize is donated by the Swedish central bank and the committee members are life-long appointees and except for two years social democrats have run the show so that it is roughly predictable who can possibly win the prize; thus, James Buchanan has advocated a 100% inheritance tax and is hailed as a free marketeer, so he can win; Milton Friedman, a free marketeer who fought for paper money all his life, endorsed the negative income tax (guaranteed income), educational vouchers (like food stamps for education), can of course win. I.e., socialists can win and be presented to the public as free marketeers. See Hoppe&#039;s Mises University 2001 lecture &quot;Mises and the Foundation of Austrian Economics&quot;, at about 1:10:20 to 1:12:. See also Hoppe&#039;s ruminations on the Nobel in economics here.)

I can&#039;t say I relish confronting even more smug, preening Obamaites, though. One solution would be to just award Obama the Nobel prize in economics too--that would help smash the credibility of both prizes.


Update: See Roderick Long&#039;s post from 2003:

A lot of people were outraged when Yasser Arafat won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1994 – a choice which people are still protesting.

I’m no fan of Arafat, but look at the list of folks he shares that dubious honour with. There are certainly some good people on that list (including, I believe, the only libertarian: French economist Frédéric Passy, recipient of the very first prize in 1901, and perhaps the only person ever to accuse Gustave de Molinari of not being sufficiently libertarian!), but it also includes such pestilent warmongers as:

Theodore Roosevelt – 1906
Woodrow Wilson – 1919
Henry Kissinger – 1973
Mikhail Gorbachev – 1990As far as I’m concerned, the Nobel Peace Prize became meaningless as of 1906.  Arafat is welcome to it.

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		<title>Fantastic Libertarian Rapper: Neema V</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Kinsella</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As noted on LewRockwell.com, there&#8217;s a wonderful Rap video by a young libertarian rapper, Neema V (from Houston, so he&#8217;s my homie). See the video below, and a great short interview by him on FreeTalkLive, in which Neema V goes on about the influence Ron Paul, Lew Rockwell, and Butler Shaffer had on him (Shaffer&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>As noted on <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/36792.html">LewRockwell.com</a>, there&#8217;s a wonderful Rap video by a young libertarian rapper, <a href="http://www.myspace.com/neemav">Neema V</a> (from Houston, so he&#8217;s my homie). See the video below, and a great short interview by him on FreeTalkLive, in which Neema V goes on about the influence Ron Paul, Lew Rockwell, and Butler Shaffer had on him (Shaffer&#8217;s book <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009980.asp"><em>Boundaries of Order</em></a> is featured in the video). This young man is intelligent, thoughtful, pleasant, interesting, and talented (amazing video and song for a home-made solo production). Go Neema V! FYNV!!</p>
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		<title>Verstehen and the Role of Economics in Forecasting, or: If You&#8217;re so Rich, Why Aren&#8217;t You Smart?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[At Recovery or Stagnation?, a Mises Circle held in San Francisco on August 29, 2009, there was a great Speakers&#8217; Panel featuring Walter Block, Thomas DiLorenzo, Douglas French, and Robert Murphy. Great comments on the current financial mess. One thing that especially interested me were Walter Block&#8217;s comments from about 12:45 to 13:35, where he [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>At <a href="http://mises.org/events/120">Recovery or Stagnation?</a>, a Mises Circle held in San Francisco on August 29, 2009, there was a great <a href="http://mises.org/MultiMedia/mp3/misescircle-sanfrancisco09/05_MC_SF2009_QA.mp3"><img src="http://mises.org/images/icons/icon_audio.png" alt="Audio (.mp3, .wav, etc.)" /> Speakers&#8217; Panel</a> featuring Walter Block, Thomas DiLorenzo, Douglas French, and Robert Murphy. Great comments on the current financial mess.</p>
<p>One thing that especially interested me were Walter Block&#8217;s comments from about 12:45 to 13:35, where he distinguishes between economic theory and one&#8217;s ability to predict or forecast. Sure, having a sound understanding of theory can help, but it cannot make your predictions foolproof. For example one&#8217;s understanding of the business cycle might lead you to recommend buying gold; but then the state might confiscate gold soon after that.</p>
<p>This brings to mind some discussions I&#8217;ve had about the nature of economics and its role in investing or forecasting. My view is the Misesian-Rothbardian-Hoppean one, which I understand to be that the future is uncertain, but not radically so; that knowledge of economics laws can help, <em>ceteris paribus</em>&#8211;but that usually other factors are dominant. The skill of forecasting is called the understanding, or <em>verstehen</em>; but it is not merely &#8220;luck,&#8221; as some in thrall to monism-scientism are wont to deride it. Peter Klein mentioned to me that the question of why or how someone has the better skill at forecasting is really <em>meta-economics</em>&#8211;more of a psychological field, which is studied at <a href="http://www.effectuation.org/">Effectuation</a>, from a Kirznerian perspective. It could be that one reason Austrian investors don&#8217;t dominate is that economic understanding only gives you a second order marginal advantage over others, that psychological or other factors are more important.</p>
<p>In other words, the better your economic understanding, the better a forecaster you can be. The future, while uncertain, is not radically so, and knowledge of economics helps constrain the possibilities. So <em>ceteris paribus</em> a better economics would be a better investor. The problem is the ceteris is not usually that paribus; that economic knowledge is only a small factor of investing success, since it depends also on other factors, which apparently usually tend to dominate-other factors such as the possession of capital to invest; your access to certain knowledge or data; and your investing ability or knack, the leftover part that is more art, that Mises called <em>verstehen</em>. Possible, in times of a typical Austrian business cycle bust, sound economics could play a bigger role in one&#8217;s ability to forecast, which could explain why Austrians like Schiff and others are standing out right now.<br />
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See also Peter Klein&#8217;s <a href="http://web.missouri.edu/%7Ekleinp/cv.html">work</a> on the nature of entrepreneurship, e.g. his <a href="http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/121462063/abstract">Opportunity discovery, entrepreneurial action, and economic organization</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Abstract: This article reviews and critiques the opportunity discovery approach to entrepreneurship and argues that entrepreneurship can be more thoroughly grounded, and more closely linked to more general problems of economic organization by adopting the Cantillon-Knight-Mises understanding of entrepreneurship as judgment. The article begins by distinguishing among occupational, structural, and functional approaches to entrepreneurship and distinguishing among two influential interpretations of the entrepreneurial function &#8211; discovery and judgment. It turns next to the contemporary literature on opportunity identification and argues that this literature misinterprets Kirzner&#8217;s instrumental use of the discovery metaphor and mistakenly makes opportunities the unit of analysis. The article then describes an alternative approach in which investment is the unit of analysis and link this approach to Austrian capital theory. I close with some applications to organizational form and entrepreneurial teams.</p></blockquote>
<p>Some more good quotes on this from (what I think of as) the High Austrians:</p>
<p>Rothbard, <a href="http://www.mises.org/rothbard/praxeologymethod.pdf" target="_blank">Praxeology as the Method of the Social Sciences</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>For the praxeologist, forecasting is a task very similar to the work of the historian. The latter attempts to &#8220;predict&#8221; the events of the past by explaining their antecedent causes; similarly, the <strong>forecaster</strong> attempts to predict the events of the future on the basis of present and past events already known. He <strong>uses all his nomothetic knowledge, economic, political, military, psychological, and technological; </strong>but at best <strong>his work is an art rather than an exact science</strong>. Thus, some forecasters will inevitably be better than others, and the superior forecasters will make the  more successful entrepreneurs, speculators, generals, and bettors on elections or football games.</p>
<p>The economic forecaster, as Professor Jewkes pointed out, is only looking at part of a tangled and complex social whole. To return to our original example, when he attempts to forecast the price of butter he must take into consideration the qualitative economic law that price depends directly on demand and inversely on supply; it is then up to him, <strong>using knowledge and insight</strong> into general economic conditions as well as the specific economic, technological, political, and climatological conditions of the butter market, as well as the values people are likely to place on butter, to try to forecast the movements of the supply and demand of butter, and therefore its price, as accurately as possible. At best, he will have nothing like a perfect score, for he will <strong>run  aground on the fact of free will altering values and choices </strong>, and the consequent <strong>impossibility of making exact predictions of the future</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hoppe, <a href="http://mises.org/esandtam.asp">Economic Science and the Austrian Method</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The argument establishing the impossibility of causal predictions in the field of human knowledge and actions now might have left the impression that if this is so, <strong>then forecasting can be nothing but successful or unsuccessful guessing</strong>. <strong>This impression, however, would be just as wrong</strong> as it would be wrong to think that one can predict human action in the same way as one can predict the growing stages of apples. It is here where the unique Misesian insight into the interplay of economic theory and history enters the picture. [36]</p>
<p>In fact, the reason why the social and economic future cannot be regarded as entirely and absolutely uncertain should not be too hard to understand: The impossibility of causal predictions in the field of action was proven by means of an a priori argument. And this argument incorporated a priori true knowledge about actions as such: that they cannot be  conceived of as governed by time-invariantly operating causes.</p>
<p>Thus, while <strong>economic forecasting will indeed always be a systematically unteachable art</strong>, it is at the same time true that all economic forecasts must be thought of as being constrained by the existence of a priori knowledge about  actions as such. [37]</p>
<p>The quantity theory of money then cannot render any specific economic event, certain or probable, on the basis of a formula employing prediction constants. However, the theory would nonetheless restrict the range of possibly correct predictions. And it would do this not as an empirical theory, but rather as a praxeological theory, acting as a logical constraint on our prediction-making. [38] Predictions that are not in line with such knowledge (in our case: the quantity theory) are systematically flawed and making them leads to systematically increasing numbers of forecasting errors. <strong>This does not mean that someone who based his predictions on correct praxeological reasoning would necessarily have to be  a better predictor of future economic events than someone who arrived at his predictions through logically flawed deliberations and chains of reasoning. <em>It means that in the long run the praxeologically enlightened forecaster would average better than the unenlightened ones. </em></strong></p>
<p><strong>It is possible to make the wrong prediction in spite of the fact that one has correctly identified the event &#8220;increase in the money supply&#8221; and in spite of one&#8217;s praxeologically correct reasoning that such an event is by logical necessity connected with the event &#8220;drop in the purchasing power of money.&#8221;</strong> For one might go wrong predicting what will occur to the event &#8220;demand for money.&#8221; One may have predicted a constant demand for money, but the demand might actually increase. Thus the predicted inflation might not show up as expected. And on the other hand, it is equally possible that a person could make a correct forecast, i.e., there will be no drop in purchasing power, in spite of the fact that he was wrongly convinced that a rise in the quantity of money had nothing to do with money&#8217;s purchasing power. For it may be that another concurrent change occurred (the demand for money increased) which counteracted his wrong assessment of causes and consequences and accidentally happened to make his prediction right.</p>
<p>However, and this brings me back to my point that praxeology logically constrains our predictions of economic events: What if we assume that all forecasters, including those with and without sound praxeological knowledge, are on the average equally well-equipped to anticipate other concurrent changes? What if they are on the average equally lucky guessers of the social and economic future? Evidently, we must conclude then that forecasters making predictions in recognition of and in accordance with praxeological laws like the quantity theory of money will be more successful than that group of forecasters which is ignorant of praxeology.</p>
<p>It is impossible to build a prediction formula which employs the assumption of time-invariantly operating causes that would enable us to scientifically forecast changes in the demand for money. The demand for money is necessarily dependent on people&#8217;s future states of knowledge, and future knowledge is unpredictable. And thus <strong>praxeological knowledge has very limited predictive utility</strong>. [39]</p></blockquote>
<p>Hoppe, <a href="http://www.mises.org/journals/rae/pdf/rae10_1_3.pdf">On Certainty and Uncertainty, Or: How Rational Can Our Expectations Be?</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>From the recognition of the fact that perfect foresight eliminates the very need of knowing and knowers, and that such a need only arises if, as in our world, foresight is less than perfect, and insofar as knowledge is a means of bringing about preferences, it does not follow that everything is uncertain. Quite to the contrary.</p>
<p>the idea of perfect or radical uncertainty (or ignorance) is either openly contradictory insofar as it is meant to say &#8220;everything about the <span>future</span> is uncertain except that there will be uncertainty-about this we are certain,&#8221; or it entails an implicit contradiction if it is meant to say everything is uncertain and that there is nothing but uncertainty, is uncertain, too.&#8221; (I do know such and such to be the case, and I do not know whether such and such is the case or not.) <strong>Only a middle-of-the-road position between the two extremes of perfect knowledge and perfect ignorance is consistently defensible</strong>: There exists uncertainty but this we know for certain. Hence, also certainty exists, and the boundary between certain and uncertain knowledge is certain (based on certain knowledge).</p></blockquote>
<p>Hoppe continued (on uncertainty):</p>
<blockquote><p>it cannot be ruled out categorically that we might be mistaken, and that the <span>future</span> will be so different from the past that all of our past knowledge will be entirely useless. It is possible that none of our instruments or machines will work anymore tomorrow, that our houses will collapse on top of us, that the earth will open up, and that all of us will perish. It is in this sense that <strong>our knowledge of the external physical world must be ultimately regarded as uncertain</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hoppe continued (on knowledge):</p>
<blockquote><p>Notwithstanding this ultimate uncertainty of our knowledge concerning the external world, however, as a result of contingent circumstances, the relative stability and regularity in the concatenation of external objects and events, it has been possible for mankind to accumulate a vast and expanding body of practically certain knowledge. This knowledge does not render the <span>future</span> predictable, but it helps us predict the effects to be produced by definite actions.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hoppe continued (on radical uncertainty):</p>
<blockquote><p>Much of our <span>future</span> is, practically speaking, perfectly certain. Every product, tool, instrument or machine represents a piece of practical certainty To claim, instead, that we are faced with radical uncertainty and that the <span>future</span> is to all of us unknowable is not  only self-contradictory but also appears to be a position devoid of common sense.</p>
<p>Little of this ever attracts the attention of theoreticians of radical uncertainty. The existence of a practical working technology and of a vast and flourishing insurance industry constitutes an embarrassment for any theory of radical uncertainty. If pressed sufficiently hard, of course, Lachmann and his followers would probably admit the undeniable and, as if all of this did not matter, <strong>quickly move onto another problem</strong>.</p>
<p>Can we really believe that each successive socialist experiment requires a different explanation, and that it is impossible to say anything applicable to <em>each and every</em> form of socialism, so that as long as there exists no private ownership of the means of production, and hence no factor prices, economic calculation (cost-accounting) will be impossible and permanent misallocation (waste) will have to result? Can we really believe that, <em>as long as socialism is not actually abolished</em>, this proposition may no longer hold true, because agents can learn from experience and may no longer act in an identical fashion? Can we really believe that if a central bank were to double the paper money supply overnight, this would not, now and forever, lead to a drop in the purchasing power of money as well as a systematic income redistribution in favor of the central bank and the early receivers of the newly-created money at the expense of those receiving it later or not at all? Can we really believe that if the minimum wage were fixed today at one million dollars per hour and if this decree were strictly enforced and no increase in the money supply were to take place, this measure might not lead to mass unemployment and a breakdown of the division of labor because people can learn from experience?</p>
<p>To use a perfect analogy while it is true that I am unable to predict <em>eveything</em> that I will say or write in the <span>future</span>, this does not imply that I cannot predict <em>anything</em> about my <span>future</span> speaking and writing. I can predict, and indeed I can predict with perfect certainty, and regardless of whether I will speak or write in English or German, that, as long as I will speak or write at all, in any language whatsoever, <strong>all of my speaking and writing will have a constant and invariable logical (propo<span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>sitional) structure</strong>: that I must use identifying expressions, such as proper names, and predicators to assert or deny some specific property of the identified or named object, for instance. In the same way it holds that even though I cannot predict what goals I may pursue in the <span>future</span>,  that means I will deem appropriate to reach these goals, and what other conceivable courses of action I will choose to reject in order to do what I will actually do (my opportunity cost), I can still predict that </span>as long as I act at all, there will be goals, means, choices, and costs; that is, I can predict the general, logical structure of each and every one of my actions, whether past, present or <span>future</span>. And this is precisely what economic theory or, as Mises has termed it, <em><strong>praxeology</strong></em><strong>, is all about: providing knowledge regarding actions as such and knowledge about the structure which any <span>future</span> knowledge and learning must have by virtue of the fact that it invariably must be the knowledge and learning of actors</strong>.</strong></p>
<p>I may not be able to predict that I will engage in voluntary exchanges, when, what it is that will be exchanged, or the exchange ratio at which the goods or services in question will be traded, etc., because all of this may indeed be affected by my and others&#8217; knowledge and change as this knowledge changes. But I can predict with perfect certitude that <em>if</em> a voluntary exchange takes place,regardless of where, when, what, and at what exchange ratio, both exchange partners must have had opposite preference orderings and must have expected to benefit from the exchange. No possible learning can ever change <em>this</em>. Likewise, I may not be able to predict that or when a socialist experiment will be undertaken or discontinued. Nor will I ever be able to predict such an experiment&#8217;s many specific features. All of this may be affected by learning. But regardless of whatever people may learn and how their learning may shape the peculiar shape of socialism, I can&#8217;still predict with absolute certainty that as long as one is in fact dealing with <em>socialism</em>, any and all economic calculation will be impossible and permanent misallocations of production factors must result because <em>this</em> consequence is already logically implied in what socialism <em>is</em>. Similarly, <strong>I may not be able to forecast that a money will actually come into existence, and it is certainly possible that mankind may one day revert back to barter</strong>. Nor can I predict with certainty what specific <em>kind</em> of money will be employed in the <span>future</span>. But I can predict with perfect certitude that if there is any money in use at all, an increase in its supply must lead to a reduction in its purchasing power below what it otherwise would have been. This follows simply from the definition of money as a <em>medium of exchange</em>.</p></blockquote>
<p>Mises, <a href="http://www.mises.org/humanaction/chap2sec8.asp#p58">Human Action</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Understanding is not a privilege of the historians. It is everybody&#8217;s business. In observing the conditions of his environment everybody is a historian. Everybody uses <strong>understanding</strong> in dealing with the <strong>uncertainty of future events</strong> to which he must adjust his own actions. The distinctive reasoning of the <strong>speculator</strong> is an <strong>understanding</strong> of the relevance of the <strong>various factors determining future events.</strong> And&#8211;let us emphasize it even at this early point of our investigations&#8211;<strong>action necessarily always aims at future and therefore uncertain conditions and thus is always speculation.</strong> Acting man looks, as it were, with the eyes of a historian into the future.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.mises.org/humanaction/chap6sec7.asp">Mises</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>VI. UNCERTAINTY<br />
7. Praxeological Prediction</p>
<p>Praxeological knowledge makes it possible to predict with apodictic certainty the outcome of various modes of action. But, of course, such prediction can never imply anything regarding quantitative matters. Quantitative problems are in the field of human action open to no other elucidation than that by understanding.</p>
<p>We can predict, as will be shown later, that?&#8211;other things being equal?&#8211;a fall in the demand for <em>a</em> will result in a drop in the price of <em>a</em>. But we cannot predict the extent of this drop. <strong>This question can be answered only by understanding.</strong></p>
<p>The fundamental deficiency implied in every quantitative approach to economic problems consists in the neglect of the fact that there are no constant relations between what are called economic dimensions. There is neither constancy nor continuity in the valuations and in the formation of exchange ratios between various commodities. Every new datum brings about a reshuffling of the whole price structure. Understanding, by trying to grasp what is going on in the minds of the men concerned, can approach the problem of forecasting future conditions. We may call its methods unsatisfactory and the positivists may arrogantly scorn it. But such arbitrary judgments must not and cannot obscure the fact that <strong>understanding</strong> is the <strong>only appropriate method</strong> of dealing with the <strong>uncertainty of future conditions</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>Salerno:<a href="http://www.mises.org/journals/rae/pdf/RAE6_2_5.pdf" target="_blank"> Mises and Hayek Dehomogenized</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>For Mises, <strong>human action</strong>, whether isolated or involving monetary exchange, is always motivated by the eagerness of the actor to enhance his welfare and consists of choosing among alternative employments of resources whose <strong>necessarily future results are not known with certainty</strong>. Because the choice process <strong>logically implies uncertainty</strong>&#8211;choice and action would be obviously futile in a world where humans are predestined to endure a rigidly unchangeable sequence of future events known with perfect certainty&#8211;the prerequisite of any specific act of choice is the <strong>acquisition of knowledge</strong>, via direct experience or from other sources of information, about the events and prevailing circumstances <strong>of the recent past</strong> that may be relevant in formulating an &#8220;understanding&#8221; of the future conditions upon which the actions under consideration will impinge.</p></blockquote>
<p>Mises: <a href="http://www.mises.org/humanaction/chap15sec8.asp" target="_blank">http://www.mises.org/humanaction/chap15sec8.asp</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Like every acting man, the entrepreneur is <strong>always a speculator</strong>. He deals with the <strong>uncertain</strong> conditions of the future. His success or failure depends on the <strong>correctness of his anticipation of uncertain events</strong>. If he fails in his <strong>understanding of things to come</strong>, he is doomed. The only source from which an entrepreneur&#8217;s profits stem is his ability to anticipate better than other people the future demand of the consumers.</p></blockquote>
<p>Note Mises and the other Austrians are careful not to speak of <em>knowledge</em> of the (uncertain) future, but <em>verstehen</em>/understanding, judgment, anticipation, forecast.</p>
<p>Hülsmann, <a href="http://www.mises.org/journals/rae/pdf/RAE10_1_2.pdf" target="_blank">Knowledge, Judgement, and the Use of Property</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>to choose correctly does not mean that one has experienced all relevant data, but that one acts according to a correct <em>judgment</em> upon these data &#8230; Entrepreneurial appraisements of the factors of production do not presuppose information about the future. They are judgments based on estimates, that is, judgments about the future.</p>
<p>&#8230; the conditions of action are not immutable. Rather, they change from day to day. Here lies the problem of the application of past knowledge. We have to <em>judge </em>whether the same conditions will prevail in the future as well. To this task all our empirical knowledge is of no help. &#8230; No past experience tells us what we should expect for the future to come. Neither can it tell us which actions we should choose. &#8230; <em>Each</em> action presupposes an ingredient that is <strong>entirely distinct from knowledge and information</strong>, namely, <strong>a judgment upon the conditions prevailing in the future.</strong></p>
<p>The market process is thus inextricably linked to <strong>choice and action</strong>. Knowledge and communication, on the other hand, are secondary.</p></blockquote>
<p>(For additional, related quotes, see also my post <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/005306.asp">Knowledge vs. Calculation</a>.)</p>
<p>Henry Hazlitt,  in his <a href="http://www.fee.org/pdf/the-freeman/issues/december%201974.pdf" target="_blank">review</a> of a Kirzner book:</p>
<blockquote><p>It is not always true that the entrepreneur <em>perceives</em> an opportunity. He thinks he perceives it He perceives an <em>apparent</em> opportunity. In fact, <em>he is betting on an assumed future condition</em>. What he acts on may not be a <em>perception</em> but a <em>guess</em>. As Kirzner himself concedes, &#8230; , the entrepreneur&#8217;s action &#8220;must to some extent constitute a gamble.&#8221; &#8230; Every entrepreneur is pitting his own guess or &#8216;perception&#8217; against the composite guess or perception of all the rest.</p></blockquote>
<p>[Mises <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/010571.asp">cross-post</a>]</p>
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		<itunes:subtitle>At Recovery or Stagnation?, a Mises Circle held in San Francisco on August 29, 2009, there was a great  Speakers&#039; Panel featuring Walter Block, Thomas DiLorenzo, Douglas French, and Robert Murphy. Great comments on the current financial mess. - </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>At Recovery or Stagnation?, a Mises Circle held in San Francisco on August 29, 2009, there was a great  Speakers&#039; Panel featuring Walter Block, Thomas DiLorenzo, Douglas French, and Robert Murphy. Great comments on the current financial mess.

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		<title>Volume 3 of Rothbard&#8217;s History of Economic Thought Exists!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is certainly squee-worthy. It&#8217;s a tragedy Rothbard died in 1995, before he could finish his History of Economic Thought series. At the time of his death, he had only published volumes I and II (PDF files: vol. I; vol. II; Mises catalog). However, as noted in the Mises store entry for Vol. III, The [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://mises.org/store/History-of-Economic-Thought-From-Marx-to-Hayek-The-P274.aspx"><img class="alignleft" src="http://mises.org/store/Assets/ProductImages/CD3185.jpg" alt="" width="210" height="211" /></a>This is certainly squee-worthy. It&#8217;s a tragedy Rothbard died in 1995, before he could finish his <em>History of Economic Thought</em> series. At the time of his death, he had only published volumes I and II (PDF files: <a href="http://mises.org/books/histofthought1.pdf">vol. I</a>; <a href="http://mises.org/books/histofthought2.pdf">vol. II</a>; <a href="http://mises.org/store/Austrian-Perspective-on-the-History-of-Economic-Thought-2-volume-set-P273.aspx">Mises catalog</a>). However, as noted in the Mises store entry for Vol. III, <a href="http://mises.org/store/History-of-Economic-Thought-From-Marx-to-Hayek-The-P274.aspx">The History of Economic Thought: From Marx to Hayek</a>, although he &#8220;died before he could write his third volume of his famous <em>History of Economic Thought</em> that would cover the birth and development of the Austrian School, through the Keynesian Revolution and Chicago School,&#8221; &#8220;he had already mapped out the entire project.&#8221; And, it turns out: it&#8217;s on tape! &#8220;Fortunately, the Mises Institute had Rothbard lecture on his discoveries and analysis of this period while he was researching the topic. The tapes were only recently discovered. We re-mastered them, and put them on a single MP3-CD: nearly seven hours of lectures.&#8221;</p>
<p>And, they are also available in free MP3 downloads <a href="http://mises.org/media.aspx?action=search&amp;q=The%20History%20of%20Economic%20Thought:%20From%20Marx%20to%20Hayek">here</a>, and listed below:</p>
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<p>The final lecture in a series of six, taken from the MP3 CD entitled &#8220;The History of Economic Thought: From Marx to Hayek&#8221; [1:07:46]</td>
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<p>The fifth in a series of six lectures, taken from the MP3 CD entitled &#8220;The History of Economic Thought: From Marx to Hayek&#8221; [56:38]</td>
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<h5><a href="http://mises.org/multimedia/mp3/rothbard/hoet/4.mp3"> <img src="http://mises.org/images/icons/icon_audio.png" alt="Audio (.mp3, .wav, etc.)" /> Menger and Böhm-Bawerk </a></h5>
<p>The fourth in a series of six lectures, taken from the MP3 CD entitled &#8220;The History of Economic Thought: From Marx to Hayek&#8221; [1:11:37]</td>
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<p>The third in a series of six lectures, taken from the MP3 CD entitled &#8220;The History of Economic Thought: From Marx to Hayek&#8221; [1:11:55]</td>
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<h5><a href="http://mises.org/multimedia/mp3/rothbard/hoet/2.mp3"> <img src="http://mises.org/images/icons/icon_audio.png" alt="Audio (.mp3, .wav, etc.)" /> The Emergence of Communism </a></h5>
<p>The second in a series of six lectures, taken from the MP3 CD entitled &#8220;The History of Economic Thought: From Marx to Hayek&#8221; [1:11:47]</td>
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<p>The first in a series of six lectures, taken from the MP3 CD entitled &#8220;The History of Economic Thought: From Marx to Hayek&#8221; [1:06:34]</td>
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		<itunes:subtitle>This is certainly squee-worthy. It&#039;s a tragedy Rothbard died in 1995, before he could finish his History of Economic Thought series. At the time of his death, he had only published volumes I and II (PDF files: vol. I; vol. II; Mises catalog). However,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This is certainly squee-worthy. It&#039;s a tragedy Rothbard died in 1995, before he could finish his History of Economic Thought series. At the time of his death, he had only published volumes I and II (PDF files: vol. I; vol. II; Mises catalog). However, as noted in the Mises store entry for Vol. III, The History of Economic Thought: From Marx to Hayek, although he &quot;died before he could write his third volume of his famous History of Economic Thought that would cover the birth and development of the Austrian School, through the Keynesian Revolution and Chicago School,&quot; &quot;he had already mapped out the entire project.&quot; And, it turns out: it&#039;s on tape! &quot;Fortunately, the Mises Institute had Rothbard lecture on his discoveries and analysis of this period while he was researching the topic. The tapes were only recently discovered. We re-mastered them, and put them on a single MP3-CD: nearly seven hours of lectures.&quot;

And, they are also available in free MP3 downloads here, and listed below:






  Hayek and His Lamentable Contemporaries 
The final lecture in a series of six, taken from the MP3 CD entitled &quot;The History of Economic Thought: From Marx to Hayek&quot; [1:07:46]

Murray  N.  Rothbard
Thursday, January 12, 2006




  Mises and Austrian Economics 
The fifth in a series of six lectures, taken from the MP3 CD entitled &quot;The History of Economic Thought: From Marx to Hayek&quot; [56:38]

Murray  N.  Rothbard
Thursday, January 12, 2006




  Menger and Böhm-Bawerk 
The fourth in a series of six lectures, taken from the MP3 CD entitled &quot;The History of Economic Thought: From Marx to Hayek&quot; [1:11:37]

Murray  N.  Rothbard
Thursday, January 12, 2006




  The Pre-Austrians 
The third in a series of six lectures, taken from the MP3 CD entitled &quot;The History of Economic Thought: From Marx to Hayek&quot; [1:11:55]

Murray  N.  Rothbard
Thursday, January 12, 2006




  The Emergence of Communism 
The second in a series of six lectures, taken from the MP3 CD entitled &quot;The History of Economic Thought: From Marx to Hayek&quot; [1:11:47]

Murray  N.  Rothbard
Thursday, January 12, 2006




  Ideology and Theories of History 
The first in a series of six lectures, taken from the MP3 CD entitled &quot;The History of Economic Thought: From Marx to Hayek&quot; [1:06:34]

Murray  N.  Rothbard
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		<title>Career Advice by North</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gary North delivered a wonderful lecture last month during Mises University 2009 (the same day I gave my own speech), &#8220;Calling and Career as an Austrian School Scholar&#8221; (a shorter version of this was in the LRC podcast 127. Gary North: Making a Difference, Making a Living, which is also excellent).  North talks calling and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Gary North delivered a wonderful lecture last month during <a href="http://mises.org/events/110">Mises University 2009</a> (the same day I gave my <a href="http://www.stephankinsella.com/2009/08/01/kinsella-speech-intellectual-property-and-libertarianism/">own speech</a>), &#8220;<a href="http://mises.org/MultiMedia/mp3/MU2009/MU2009_North_07-29-2009.mp3">Calling and Career as an Austrian School Scholar</a>&#8221; (a shorter version of this was in the LRC podcast <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/podcast/?p=episode&amp;name=2009-08-04_127_making_a_difference_making_a_living.mp3">127. Gary North: Making a Difference, Making a Living</a>, which is also excellent).  North talks calling and occupation. Calling is &#8220;the most important thing you can do with your life in which you are most difficult to replace.&#8221; Occupation is &#8220;how you put food on the table.&#8221; Occasionally they are the same, but often not; but there is no reason not to arrange your life so as to have both. He talks about how to combine them or at least have both in your life, and centers his talk around some examples, notably Burt Blumert and William Volker.</p>
<p>Also see Paul Graham&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="http://www.paulgraham.com/hs.html">What You&#8217;ll Wish You&#8217;d Known</a> (&#8220;I wrote this talk for a high school. I never actually gave it, because the school authorities vetoed the plan to invite me.&#8221;)</p>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Gary North delivered a wonderful lecture last month during Mises University 2009 (the same day I gave my own speech), &quot;Calling and Career as an Austrian School Scholar&quot; (a shorter version of this was in the LRC podcast 127.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Gary North delivered a wonderful lecture last month during Mises University 2009 (the same day I gave my own speech), &quot;Calling and Career as an Austrian School Scholar&quot; (a shorter version of this was in the LRC podcast 127. Gary North: Making a Difference, Making a Living, which is also excellent).  North talks calling and occupation. Calling is &quot;the most important thing you can do with your life in which you are most difficult to replace.&quot; Occupation is &quot;how you put food on the table.&quot; Occasionally they are the same, but often not; but there is no reason not to arrange your life so as to have both. He talks about how to combine them or at least have both in your life, and centers his talk around some examples, notably Burt Blumert and William Volker.

Also see Paul Graham&#039;s &quot;What You&#039;ll Wish You&#039;d Known (&quot;I wrote this talk for a high school. I never actually gave it, because the school authorities vetoed the plan to invite me.&quot;)</itunes:summary>
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		<title>My old Against Monopoly Blog Posts</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are some of my older AgainstMonopoly.org blogposts, which were not cross-referenced here (but will be going forward): The IP Dogs! The post Animal Abuse mentions the state&#8217;s use of &#8220;DVD-sniffing anti-piracy dogs.&#8221;Res ipsa loquitur. [Posted at 06/03/2009 08:53 AM by Stephan Kinsella on IP as a Joke comments(0)] Imagining the Fate of Copyright in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Here are some of <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=&amp;chunk=0&amp;author=631">my older AgainstMonopoly.org blogposts</a>, which were not cross-referenced here (but will be going forward):</p>
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<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000001109">The IP Dogs!</a></h3>
<div class="post">The post <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/010064.asp">Animal Abuse</a> mentions the state&#8217;s use of &#8220;DVD-sniffing anti-piracy dogs.&#8221;<em>Res ipsa loquitur</em>.</div>
<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 06/03/2009 08:53 AM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=IP+as+a+Joke">IP as a Joke</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000001109"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000001109">comments(0)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000001063">Imagining the Fate of Copyright in a Future World</a></h3>
<div class="post">There&#8217;s been much talk lately of the imminent death of copyright, due in part to the increasing digitization of information and media, the Internet, large bandwidth, and encryption. Nora Ephron, for example, <a href="http://www.wwd.com/media-news/fashion-memopad/memo-pad-uniqlo-nabs-deyn-bad-internet-classic-martha-2136751?src=rss/recentstories/20090515#/article/media-news/fashion-memopad/memo-pad-uniqlo-nabs-deyn-bad-internet-classic-martha-2136751?page=2">recently observed</a>, &#8220;We&#8217;re in the last days of copyright, if you want to be grim about it&#8230;.&#8221; And see <a href="http://volokh.com/posts/1235918170.shtml" class="broken_link">The Death of Copyright, Item #241</a>, <a href="http://lawlib.lclark.edu/podcast/?p=701">Encryption, Strong Privacy, and the Death of Copyright</a>, <a href="http://mbyerly.blogspot.com/2009/04/death-of-copyright.html">The Death of Copyright</a>, and many other <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=%22death+of+copyright%22&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a">such comments</a>.Imagine a world 150, 200, 500 years from now&#8211;when virtually every work of art, every novel, ever movie, song, and recording ever produced until today&#8211;and many years after&#8211;is public domain. Now imagine you want to play muzak in your elevators, or nice background music in your dental office, or car repair waiting room, or restaurant. Or imagine you want to publish a book (or website) of great paintings. If you want to do these things today, most of the works you&#8217;d be intersted in are still covered by copyright. Sure, there are older recordings on scratchy 78 rpm LPs, and musty tomes from the time of the Civil War or earlier&#8211;but modern stuff, in color, stereo, hi-fi, with modern acting and special effects&#8211;most is still subject to copyright. So to play muzak in your elevator or pipe in nice background music to the ceiling speakers of your waiting room, you have to pay annoying royalties each month.</p>
<p>But even now we are starting to see, with the advent of <a href="http://books.google.com/">Google Books</a>, <a href="http://www.archive.org/index.php">The Internet Archive</a>, and <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page">Gutenberg</a>, and so on, increasingly modern books entering the public domain. Imagine 400 years from now, and every movie, song, painting, novel published from the dawn of time, every movie made in the 20th and 21st and 22nd centuries, plus hundreds of thousands or even millions of songs, photographs, paintings, &#8230; and the last 100 years or so is still locked up. Now let&#8217;s say you want to put up a website the 10,000 great paintings; or stream a music or movie station playing great songs and films&#8211;will you pay out the nose for the rights to publish the recent stuff? Well, maybe, but if you have an almost unending cornucopia of great, free stuff to choose from&#8211;methinks this might exert a strong downward pressure on the ability of copyright holders to extort much money from you. (And this is disregarding practical problems they face, such as some kid downloading all the world&#8217;s media into his petabyte thumb drive in 17 seconds via a totally secure encrypted link.)</div>
<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 05/20/2009 10:05 PM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Copyright">Copyright</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000001063"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000001063">comments(0)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000001039">Kevin Carson&#8217;s Intellectual Property   A Libertarian Critique</a></h3>
<div class="post">Kevin Carson has just released his <a href="http://c4ss.org/content/521">Intellectual Property&#8211;A Libertarian Critique</a>. I haven&#8217;t had a chance to read all of it yet, but from a quick skim it looks good, and with a title like this&#8211;and given that IP is turning out to be an insidious tool wielded by the state to destroy and re-route wealth&#8211;it&#8217;s worth looking into.</div>
<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 05/13/2009 07:01 PM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Against+Monopoly">Against Monopoly</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000001039"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000001039">comments(16)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000001036">Lawyer Layoffs&#8211;A Silver Lining!</a></h3>
<div class="post"><a href="http://texaslawyer.typepad.com/texas_lawyer_blog/2009/05/thompson-knight-lays-off-lawyers-staff-firmwide.html">Thompson &amp; Knight lays off lawyers, staff firmwide</a> notes something we&#8217;re hearing more and more about nowadays&#8211;law firms laying off attorneys, due to Great Depression II. As the piece notes, the Dallas-based firm recently &#8220;laid off for economic reasons 17 lawyers and 25 support staff in all of its U.S. offices, including Dallas, Houston, New York, Fort Worth and Austin. &#8230; All of the lawyers are associates &#8212; only two of them are first years &#8212; who practiced in real estate or other business-related areas that require bank money to operate.&#8221;But not all is lost: &#8220;not all of the firm&#8217;s practices are doing badly by a long shot, [the managing partner] says. &#8216;There are areas of our firm like IP litigation that are going crazy.&#8217;&#8221;</div>
<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 05/13/2009 11:28 AM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=IP+Law">IP Law</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000001036"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000001036">comments(2)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000001034">A State-Granted Property Right in Preventing Teenage Drunk Driving</a></h3>
<div class="post">As <a href="http://www.patentlyo.com/patent/2009/05/patently-o-bits-and-bytes-1.html">reported on Patently-O</a>, two &#8220;inventors&#8221; have files patent applications on two &#8220;inventions&#8221;. The first is for <a href="http://www.peertopatent.org/patent/20090063201/overview">SoberTeen(TM) driving insurance</a>. The application claims</p>
<blockquote><p>a new auto insurance product where a driver receives a 10 to 30 percent discount in premium in exchange for allowing the insurance company to monitor his or her car to determine if anyone drives it while under the influence of alcohol.</p>
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<p>I wonder what MADD would say about the patentee trying to use the courts to stop an insurance company from offering this product without paying a ransom?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.peertopatent.org/patent/20090055227/overview">The other</a> attempts to claim a monopoly on</p>
<blockquote><p>A method wherein the life or health risk of a person is evaluated based on information maintained in a Risk Profile Data Base (RPDB) and the result of said evaluation is used for one or both of the following purposes: to offer an insurance policy in an underwriting class determined by the said evaluation; to provide said person with a life or health expectancy report containing suggestions on how said person can improve said life or health expectancy.</p>
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<p>Is any comment really needed?</p>
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<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 05/11/2009 01:51 PM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=IP+as+a+Joke">IP as a Joke</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000001034"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000001034">comments(1)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000001033">Those Dreaded &#8220;frivolous patent challenges&#8221;</a></h3>
<div class="post"><a href="http://www.patentbaristas.com/archives/2009/05/07/will-proposed-new-post-grant-review-procedures-invite-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-68231">Will Proposed New Post-Grant Review Procedures Invite Abuse?</a> that &#8220;<a href="http://www.innovationalliance.net/">The Innovation [sic] Alliance</a>&#8221; is opposed to reforming the patent system to allow &#8220;post-grant review mechanisms&#8221;&#8211;that is, ways for potential victims of patent extortion to challenge the validity of issued patents. The group is worried this might permit &#8220;repeated frivolous patent challenges&#8221;! Got that&#8211;not frivolous patents, but <em>frivolous patent challenges</em>! This is like a plaintiffs&#8217; lawyer who files frivolous lawsuits complaining about people defending themselves from it&#8211;they ought to just cough up the demanded money and quit finding &#8220;frivolous&#8221; defenses!Here, people who use the power of the state to unjustly acquire a monopoly that gives them the right to legally extort victims are complaining about &#8220;frivolous patent challenges&#8221;. Wow, some chutzpah.</p>
<p>The post also notes:</p>
<blockquote><p>The fear is that such service provides will offer to &#8220;creat[e] uncertainty about a problem patent by tying it up in a long reexamination process and effectively nullify the problem patent&#8221; to get lower rates during license negotiations &#8220;until the uncertainty ends.&#8221;</p>
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<p>So&#8230;. to avoid reducing the amount of extortion holders of &#8220;problem patents&#8221; can demand, we should just presume patents are valid&#8211;even if they might not be&#8211;and don&#8217;t allow any kind of challenge that could just &#8220;cause uncertainty.&#8221; Wow.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know. I prefer justice to certainty. Call me crazy.</p>
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<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000001021">The Other Dr. No: HIV Researcher Fighting the IP Pirates</a></h3>
<div class="post">I don&#8217;t mean the James Bond movie, or Ron Paul, Congress&#8217;s &#8220;Dr. No.&#8221; This wonderful, eye-opening piece by the heroic <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000265">IP-abuse reporter</a> Joe Mullin, <a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/iplawandbusiness/PubArticleIPLB.jsp?id=1202430332016">The Fight of His Life</a> (Mullin&#8217;s blog, <a href="http://thepriorart.typepad.com/">The Prior </a>Art) highlights the appalling ordeal of Dr. Bob Shafer, a bioinformatics expert. Yet another case of patent law victimizing innovation and innocent people.As such stories tend to be, this one is complicated, but it&#8217;s crucially important, so bear with my attempt at a concise summary. Dr. Shaffer, an associate professor of medicine and pathology at Stanford University, established the <a href="http://hivdb.stanford.edu/">HIV Drug Resistance Database (HIVdb)</a> (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV_Drug_Resistance_Database">wikipedia link</a>) in 1998. As the article reports,</p>
<blockquote><p>Since then, the database has built a following among HIV researchers and practitioners around the world, attracting some 50,000 unique visitors a month. Those who use it generally fall into three categories: academic researchers, commercial and noncommercial laboratories, and doctors. &#8230; The database allows users to enter genetic information for viruses from individual patients or groups of patients, and to retrieve drug resistance information, which can then be used to help devise treatment regimens. Such information is critical to HIV research and drug development, as well as to treating individual patients. HIVdb is especially popular in the developing world not least because <strong>it&#8217;s freely available to anyone with an Internet connection</strong>. In some developing countries, medical practitioners have heard of Stanford University mainly through their interactions with HIVdb.</p>
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<p>This is quite obviously a heroic, important, noble and benevolent effort. As the article notes, it&#8217;s &#8220;a highly regarded free resource that he developed, Stanford hosts, and doctors and scientists around the world rely on.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, in January 2007, ABL, a medical software company based in Luxembourg, claimed that the database infringed its patents. Read the article for more details, but in short: Stanford first moved to invalidate ABL&#8217;s patents by filing a declaratory judgment suit in California in October 2007; but then later settled with ABL, where ABL agreed not to sue Stanford for patent infringement and Stanford agreed to put a prominent disclaimer on the HIVdb, informing those who used it that, depending on the nature of their work, they might need a patent license from ABL. However, Shafer wasn&#8217;t required to sign the agreement with ABL and was not told him about the settlement&#8217;s terms until after it was reached.</p>
<p>Shafer at first refused to post the notice, and bully for him. He was afraid it would lead doctors to think they owe money to ABL, &#8220;and that the database built mostly with taxpayer-funded National Institutes of Health grants is no longer free.&#8221; Finally, under pressure, he did post a notice but he appended his own language arguing the patents are overbroad and invalid. See about halfway down on <a href="http://hivdb.stanford.edu/pages/new-submissions.html">this page</a>, where Dr. Shafer bravely challenges the validity of these patents. He also launched the site <a href="http://harmfulpatents.org/">Harmful Patents</a>, where he defiantly and courageously challenges the use of these patents to claim &#8220;<em><strong>a monopoly on the very concept of developing software to help physicians make treatment decisions</strong></em>&#8220;&#8211;absurdly, the patent gives ABL a monopoly on &#8220;<em>the science of using computers to enhance medical treatment and decision making</em>.&#8221; As one of Shafer&#8217;s colleagues notes, &#8220;If you read [ABL's patents] literally, anyone who is providing therapeutic options based on the sequence of a pathogen violates their patent, and that goes on in hundreds of contexts. It&#8217;s truly a dangerous precedent.&#8221;</p>
<p>Although ABL already settled with Stanford, its suit against Sahfer for breach of contract and defamation is ongoing. According to Mullin&#8217;s report, Shafer has racked up more than $100,000 in legal bills and his career is in jeopardy, since he&#8217;s fighting ABL and refused to cravenly give in, as his employer, Stanford University, arguably did.</p>
<p>I do not know if Shafer seeks or needs or welcomes help, or how it might be done. But I am all in favor of helping this man fight these people, and fight for the principle of &#8220;free access to published data&#8221; as &#8220;an intrinsic part of science and medicine.&#8221; Good for Shafer, and for Mullin for bringing this to light.</p>
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<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 05/08/2009 08:48 PM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Science+and+IP">Science and IP</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000001021"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000001021">comments(0)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000001020">The Libertarian View on Fine Print, Shinkwrap, Clickwrap</a></h3>
<div class="post">The Techdirt post <a href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20090508/0212134792.shtml#comments">Court Rejects Online Terms Of Service That Reserve The Right To Change At Any Time</a> spurred me to post a <a href="http://techdirt.com/article.php?sid=20090508/0212134792#c195">comment</a> about this, collecting some of the thoughts I&#8217;ve had about such matters for a long time.As I note there, my  own  theory  of  contract  is  presented  in  my  article  <a href="http://www.mises.org/journals/jls/17_2/17_2_2.pdf"> A  Theory  of  Contracts:  Binding  Promises,  Title  Transfer,  and  Inalienability</a>. And while I of course as a libertarian favor freedom of contract, I am leery of too formulaic or formalistic libertarian positions. Partly this stems from my growing aversion to &#8220;armchair&#8221; theorizing (see my post <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/005391.asp">The Limits of Armchair Theorizing: The case of Threats</a>). But as an example, and as I noted in the contract article, I disagree with putting so much stock in whether a communication is a &#8220;promise&#8221; or not (Rothbard, e.g., puts a bit too much emphasis on this, in my view). The question is what the parties meant by their communication&#8211;even if the word &#8220;promise&#8221; is used, this could be intended to effectuate a transfer of title. Another is, say, the over-emphasis on the notion of &#8220;incitement&#8221; by Rothbard and Block (as discussed in <a href="http://www.mises.org/journals/qjae/pdf/qjae7_4_7.pdf">Causation and Aggression</a>). They want to rule out &#8220;incitement&#8221; as a type of aggression in all cases; to my mind, it&#8217;s a more context-dependent determination. Maybe it is, maybe it isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>A similar issue arises in the case of contracts. Many libertarians, often with only a crude understanding of the nature of contracts, just assume, Rand-like, some kind of mystical &#8220;power&#8221; to &#8220;bind&#8221; oneself by &#8220;a contract&#8221;. They tend also to equate contracts with a written agreement. They thus tend to think that &#8220;if it&#8217;s written in ink, it&#8217;s binding, no matter what&#8221;. To my mind, this is too formalistic. A writing is neither necessary nor sufficient to form a contract. Most contracts are not written. They may be oral. They do not even need to be verbal&#8211;I hand you a dollar, pointing to the newspaper; you take my dollar and give me the paper. A sale happens, nonverbally (no oral or written communication). And &#8220;what is written&#8221; is not necessarily dispositive. To my mind, a written agreement is only <em>evidence of what the parties actually agreed to</em>. But it is rebuttable. The written agreement may be very sparse: in which case in the case of disputes, there is no choice but to resort to &#8220;gap-fillers,&#8221; default rules, and the like. Or the agreement may contain ambiguities or even inconsistencies&#8211;this may require similar construction methods, or even invalidation of the agreement.</p>
<p>The agreement may not even be intended to be binding, such as in the case of a so-called &#8220;simulation&#8221; (a contract which, by mutual agreement, does not express the true intent of the parties; see my <a href="http://www.kinsellalaw.com/publications/kinsella_civil-common-law-dictionary.pdf" class="broken_link"><em>Civil Law to Common Law Dictionary</em></a>, entry for &#8220;Simulation&#8221;; <a href="http://www.legis.state.la.us/lss/lss.asp?folder=67">Louisiana Civil Code</a>, arts. 2025-27).</p>
<p>Or there may be fraud or deception which nullifies the whole writing or requires certain provisions not to be enforced.</p>
<p>Given all this, in my view we should not just assume that &#8220;whatever is in writing&#8221; is part of a binding obligation or enforceable agreement. This bears on the issue of fine print, and so-called shrink-wrap and clickwrap agreements (incidentally the law of various countries on this issue is discussed in my book <a href="http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Law/ContractandGeneralCommercialLaw/ElectronicCommerce/?view=usa&amp;ci=9780379215199"><em>Online Contract Formation</em></a>&#8211;which is not bedside reading, n.b.). Libertarians seem to just assume, too quickly in my view, that all such fine print should be enforceable. These assumptions seem to be made in the absence of the awareness of the nuances noted above.</p>
<p>So one problem with click-wrap agreements, for example, is that there is (arguably) often no &#8220;meeting of the minds&#8221; on the fine print&#8211;<em>and the vendor is fully aware of this</em>. If  the  customers  routinely  just  click  the  &#8220;I  have  read  and  agree  to  these  terms&#8221;  box  but  never  <em>do</em> read it, and the vendor knows this, then it&#8217;s a sort of fiction to assume both sides have actually agreed on these terms. For example supposed buried in fine print for a contract for sale of a $20 software program is the provision, &#8220;Buyer agrees to give 50% of his income to Vendor for life.&#8221; Is this enforceable? Of course not. Why not? Because there was no agreement to this. So the &#8220;hidden&#8221; terms have to be in some sense reasonable, at the least. (Here, too, &#8220;inalienability&#8221; concerns may kick in&#8211;even if the party is fully aware he is signing away his life income, or his kidney, or life, say, this may not be enforceable for inalienability concerns&#8211;see, on this, the contract article noted above, plus my article <a href="http://www.mises.org/journals/jls/14_1/14_1_4.pdf">Inalienability and Punishment</a>.)</p>
<p>I am not saying that clickwrap and fine print is not enforceable&#8211;I&#8217;m just saying that the libertarian view on property rights and contracts does not require that we formalistically <em>equate</em> &#8220;the contract&#8221; with &#8220;the writing,&#8221; and it does not require we figure all this out from our armchairs. The libertarian view can recognize that contracts about consensual, intentional transfers of title; that manifesting such consent is a matter of <em>communication</em>; that making determinations about the nature of a contract, or title transfer, is necessarily a fact-specific, context-bound inquiry.</div>
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<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000985">Celebrate World Intellectual Property Day&#8230;</a></h3>
<div class="post"><img src="http://www.patentbaristas.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ipday_2009.gif" alt="" align="right" />by using The Pirate Bay. Just kidding.It&#8217;s bad enough they want us to celebate &#8220;World IP Day&#8221;. But now they are focused on &#8220;promoting green innovation.&#8221; Groan. Gotta love this state-sponsored propaganda-fest.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.patentbaristas.com/archives/2009/04/26/celebrate-world-intellectual-property-day-2/">Celebrate World Intellectual Property Day</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Today [April 26, 2009] is World Intellectual Property Day and this year WIPO&#8217;s focus is on promoting green innovation as the key to a secure future.According to WIPO, most people are aware of intellectual property (IP) but many still view patents, copyrights and trademarks as business or legal concepts with little to no relevance to their own lives. To address this gap, WIPO&#8217;s Member States decided in 2000 to designate an annual World Intellectual Property Day. They chose April 26, the date on which the Convention establishing WIPO originally entered into force in 1970.</p>
<p>Each year, WIPO and its Member States celebrate World Intellectual Property Day with activities, events and campaigns. These are an attempt to increase public understanding of what IP really means, and to demonstrate how the IP system fosters not only music, arts and entertainments, but also all the products and technological innovations that help to shape our world.</p>
<p>WIPO issues a message from the Director General each year, broadcasts a short publicity spot on international television channels, and dispatches posters and other promotional materials to IP offices and organizations.</p>
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<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 04/29/2009 01:13 PM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=IP+in+the+News">IP in the News</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000985"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000985">comments(0)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000983">My EETimes Letter on Protecting the Patent System</a></h3>
<div class="post">In <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000926">EE Times: Opinion: Engineers should stage a patent strike</a>, I noted an op-ed by Rick Merritt in <em>EETimes</em>, &#8220;Opinion: Engineers should stage a patent strike.&#8221;A Mr. J. C. Cooper, of Pixel Instruments Corp., replied with a <a href="http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=217200453">letter to the editor</a> in defense of the patent system. My <a href="http://www.techonline.com/tigforums/thread.jspa?messageID=11459#11459">reply</a> is reprinted below:</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Mr. Cooper writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Your articles in the April 20 edition of EE Times ["Dealing with Mad Patent Disease"] which portray the U.S. patent system as broken and worse seem terribly biased. I wonder where you are getting your information. Surely you don&#8217;t have any direct experience with patents, e.g. using a patent to protect a money making invention, or you would be able to formulate a more balanced viewpoint.&#8221;</p>
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<p>I&#8217;d like to respectfully disagree with some of Mr. Cooper&#8217;s contentions. As a preliminary matter, I disagree that only those with a lot of experience in patenting are entitled to have an opinion, or ought to be accused of being &#8220;biased&#8221; if they dissent on the mainstream viewpoint on IP rights. that said, I am a practicing, registered patent attorney, with BSEE and MSEE degrees. I&#8217;ve represented many clients and obtained hundreds of issued patents over the last 15 or so years.</p>
<p>Mr. Cooper writes,</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The patent system could use some tweaking but it is far from the &#8220;mad patent disease&#8221; you describe. The U.S. needs a stronger patent system, not weaker &#8230;. The only way that innovation, and its industry, can be protected is with intellectual property, i.e. patents. To weaken the patent system at the urging and benefit of a few large multinational corporations (most of which have been found guilty in court of stealing the property of others) runs the risk of destroying that one remaining thriving U.S. industry.&#8221;</p>
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<p>There are a few problematic assumptions and chains of reasoning here. I agree that innovation is good, but Mr. Cooper&#8217;s assumption that &#8220;The only way that innovation, and its industry, can be protected is with intellectual property, i.e. patents&#8221; is unwarranted. There are of course other ways&#8211;exclusion methods; first-to-market; trade secrets, and so on. And there are other methods discussed extensively in Boldrin and Levine&#8217;s <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php"><em>Against Intellectual Monopoly</em></a>.  No one can seriously argue there would be <em>no</em> innovation without patents. At most, you can argue there is <em>more</em> innovation under a patent system.</p>
<p>But the patent system obviously has costs. So the argument that we need a patent system to encourage more innovation assumes that the value of the extra innovation induced by a patent system is greater than the costs of the patent system. But as I note in my article &#8220;There&#8217;s No Such Thing as a Free Patent&#8221; (links below to this and others mentioned here), no one has ever been able to show this. In fact, most studies and analyses I&#8217;m aware of conclude that if anything, the cost of the patent system is greater than the value of any extra, marginal innovation stimulated. Some analyses even conclude that there is less innovation overall under a patent sytem, than there would be without one&#8211;so that added to the undeniable cost of the patent system is the cost of the lost innovation.</p>
<p>If Mr. Cooper is aware of information no one else seems to have&#8211;what is the net value of the patent system (i.e., what is the value of the extra innovation induced by the patent system, minus any lost innovation, minus other costs of the patent system), I and others would love to see this data.</p>
<p>Mr. Cooper implies that those opposed to IP rights are biased, or not &#8220;balanced,&#8221; or are mainly &#8220;a few large multinational corporations (most of which have been found guilty in court of stealing the property of others).&#8221; But surely individuals and even companies are entitled to their viewpoint. It can easily be argued that those who can profit from the patent monopoly granted to them by the state are also biased, and are willing to argue in favor of the patent monopoly system&#8211;that they do not really care whether the system is a net benefit to the economy overall&#8211;that they are happy to have it exist so long as they benefit from it, even if this is at the expense of overall innovation and growth. Certainly, the deafening silence of advocates of IP to provide any data that supports their contention that patents indeed spur innovation worth more than the cost of the system, casts suspicion on their sincerity. (And is it really that surprising that patent attorneys are almost uniformly pro-IP rights?)</p>
<p>Mr. Cooper&#8217;s aside that most of the &#8220;large multinational corporations&#8221; complaining about patents &#8220;have been found guilty in court of stealing the property of others&#8221; begs the question of whether IP is, or should be, recognized as a legitimate form of property rights, by calling it &#8220;stealing&#8221; of &#8220;property&#8221;. The question is whether patterns of information are, or ought to be ownable as property. In my view, not only does the patent system cause overall economic damage in the billions of dollars, but patent and copyright are not legitimate forms of property rights&#8211;in fact, patent and copyright are contrary to, and undermine, private property rights. As I argue in my book <em>Against Intellectual Property</em>, a free market relies on private property rights being respected, which means scarce resources are owned by the original homesteader of the property, or that person&#8217;s descendant in title. But to grant a patent to someone who finds a new way to use their own property, is to grant that person some rights in how other people use their own property&#8211;this is redistribution from owners, to outsiders. As an example, if the state granted me the right to prevent Mr. Cooper from using his car to transport passengers&#8211;if I had this type of veto right&#8211;then I could demand he pay me a royalty for my permission to let him carry passengers. I would be a partial owner of his car&#8211;where before, he was the full owner, now he is only a part owner. This would be a type of theft of Mr. Cooper&#8217;s rights in his car, a transfer from him to me. This is what the patent system does, and it is ethically unjustified and contrary to the sanctity of private property rights.</p>
<p>It is understandable that technology companies take advantage of the state&#8217;s patent system; they have virtually no choice, if only for defensive reasons. And it is understandable they become used to this model, and cannot imagine how their business model would change if the state did not intervene in the market with IP law. But this does not mean IP law is justified.</p>
<p>For those interested in further reading on this (and for links to some of the sources mentioned above), I recommend:</p>
<p>1. The superb new book <em><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=995">Against Intellectual Monopoly</a></em>, by economists Boldrin and Levine.</p>
<p>2. Jeff Tucker&#8217;s <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009393.asp">excellent commentaries</a> on Boldrin and Levine.</p>
<p>3. Some of my material, <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/author/stephan_kinsella_1/">many on Mises.org</a>. Such as: my little book, <em>Against Intellectual Property</em>, my article &#8220;There&#8217;s No Such Thing as a Free Patent,&#8221; and my presentation, &#8220;Rethinking IP Completely,&#8221; all available <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=868">here</a>.</p>
<p>4. Mike Masnick&#8217;s frequent and excellent anti-IP commentary on <a href="http://techdirt.com/">Techdirt</a>.</p>
<p>There are many other excellent anti-IP pieces, but this is a good starting point.</p>
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<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 04/29/2009 10:18 AM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Innovation">Innovation</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000983"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000983">comments(0)</a>]</p>
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<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000982">Recommended Readings on Intellectual Property</a></h3>
<div class="post">I have been repeating the following to people in emails of late, in response to queries about the free-market opposition to intellectual property, so below I provide a concise list of links for some good material explaining the libertarian/free-market case against IP:1. The superb new book <em><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=995">Against Intellectual Monopoly</a></em>, by economists Boldrin and Levine.</p>
<p>2. Jeff Tucker&#8217;s <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009393.asp">excellent commentaries</a> on Boldrin and Levine.</p>
<p>3. Some of my material, <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/author/stephan_kinsella_1/">many on Mises.org</a>. Such as: my little book, <em>Against Intellectual Property</em>, my article &#8220;There&#8217;s No Such Thing as a Free Patent,&#8221; and my presentation, &#8220;Rethinking IP Completely,&#8221; all available <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=868">here</a>.</p>
<p>4. Mike Masnick&#8217;s frequent and excellent anti-IP commentary on <a href="http://techdirt.com/">Techdirt</a>.</p>
<p>There are many other excellent anti-IP pieces, but this is a good starting point.</p>
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<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 04/29/2009 09:39 AM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Against+Monopoly">Against Monopoly</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000982"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=1&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000982">comments(4)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000979">R.I.P. Broadcom v. Qualcomm, 2005-09</a></h3>
<div class="post">Looks like Great Depression II has helped forced the parties to a gargantuan, long-standing patent battle to the negotiating table. From <em><a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/tal/digestTAL.jsp?id=1202430241591&amp;RIP_Broadcom_v_Qualcomm_">The American Lawyer: Litigation Daily</a></em>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Looking back, we knew this day would come. For the last four years, Broadcom and Qualcomm have been litigating against each other with the chess-match strategic intensity of Cold War rivals, as we learned when we spent a few months in the fall of 2007 reporting and writing <a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1196676274843">an American Lawyer cover story</a> on the epic litigation. Trust us, these companies don&#8217;t like each other. But we knew they couldn&#8217;t sustain the pace and expense of litigation that literally spanned the globe. Qualcomm, which seemed to get beat up in case after case by Broadcom, simply could not justify paying hundreds of millions of dollars to the likes of Cooley Godward Kronish, DLA Piper, and Cravath, Swaine &amp; Moore.</p>
<p>And so, on Sunday night, the two announced they had reached peace, agreeing to drop all litigation against each other. That&#8217;s going to leave <a href="http://www.broadcom.com/press/release.php?id=s379764&amp;industry_id=4&amp;source=home">a gaping hole in the dockets </a>of the International Trade Commission, the federal district court in Santa Ana, Calif., the European Commission, and the Korea Fair Trade Commission. The deal includes a multiyear patent agreement and requires Qualcomm to pay Broadcom $891 million over a four-year period. &#8230; Qualcomm insists that nothing in the Broadcom settlement agreement will affect its highly profitable business model of licensing its technology. &#8220;We will be able to continue to operate as in the past,&#8221; Qualcomm&#8217;s general counsel, Don Rosenberg, told The San Diego Tribune. &#8220;But we&#8217;re not standing around here thumping our chests.&#8221;</p>
<p>Rosenberg said cutting legal costs was &#8220;clearly a factor&#8221; driving settlement talks. According to one estimate, Qualcomm was spending $100 million annually in its fight with Broadcom. &#8230; &#8220;It&#8217;s not unusual in a case like this, as you get near settlement, for there to be negotiated reductions in legal expenses,&#8221; French said. &#8220;It&#8217;s a natural course. If a company does not get its optimum desired result, needless to say, it is looking for how to minimize its total financial exposure.&#8221;</p>
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<p>Hundreds of millions of dollars down the rathole, and hundreds of millions more to be paid in the future&#8211;what a productive use of resources the patent system &#8220;stimulates&#8221;. And to think&#8211;some pro-patent types want to foist this system on China &#8212; one <a href="http://www.patenthawk.com/blog/2009/04/china_ascendant.html">patent hawk</a> raves: &#8220;The quality of patents issued in China is also improving. Revisions to the patent law that take effect in October strengthen the requirement for a patent&#8217;s novelty, bringing it up to global standards. Stronger patents are easier to enforce, <strong>opening the door to more lawsuits.</strong>&#8221; And that&#8217;s a good thing? China, <em>do not listen to Americans</em>! on Tax policy, antitrust, or IP!</div>
<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 04/28/2009 04:43 AM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Innovation">Innovation</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000979"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=1&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000979">comments(0)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000978">What&#8217;s Next&#8211;Trademarking Language? Don&#8217;t be *Ridiculous*!</a></h3>
<div class="post">From zenhabits: <a href="http://zenhabits.net/2009/04/feel-the-fear-and-do-it-anyway-or-the-privatization-of-the-english-language/">Feel the Fear and Do It Anyway (or, the Privatization of the English Language)</a>Post written by <a href="http://zenhabits.net/about/">Leo Babauta</a>.</p>
<p>Today I received an email from the lawyers of author Susan Jeffers, PhD., notifying me that I&#8217;d infringed on her trademark by inadvertently using the phrase &#8220;feel the fear and do it anyway&#8221; in my post last week, <a href="http://zenhabits.net/2009/04/a-guide-to-beating-the-fears-that-are-holding-you-back/">A Guide to Beating the Fears That Hold You Back</a>.</p>
<p>The phrase, apparently, is the title of one of her books … a book I&#8217;d never heard of. I wasn&#8217;t referring to her book. I&#8217;m not using the phrase as a title of a book or product or to sell anything. I was just referring to something a friend said on Twitter.</p>
<p>Her lawyers asked me to insert the (R) symbol after the phrase, in my post, and add this sentence: &#8220;This is the registered trademark of Susan <span class="il">Jeffers</span>, Ph.D. and is used with her permission.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah. I&#8217;m not gonna do that.</p>
<p>I find it unbelievable that a common phrase (that was used way before it was the title of any book) can be trademarked. We&#8217;re not talking about the names of products … we&#8217;re talking about the English language. You know, the words many of us use for such things as … talking, and writing, and general communication? Perhaps I&#8217;m a little behind the times, but is it really possible to claim whole chunks of the language, and force people to get permission to use the language, just in everyday speech?</p>
<p>What if this were taken to an extreme? What if some billionaire (say, Bill Gates) decided to start trademarking thousands and thousands of phrases, so that he could charge us for each use, or so that we&#8217;d have to link back to the Microsoft homepage with each reference? The language, in this scenario, could be entirely privatized if we allow this sort of thing.</p>
<p>So, while this post is probably ill-advised (and yes, I realize that I&#8217;m actually giving publicity to Ms. Jeffers), I have to object. I think we have a duty, as writers and bloggers and speakers of the English language, to defend our rights to … words. Free speech is a bit of an important concept, I think.</p>
<p>As an aside, I think the idea of jealously protecting copyright and trademarks, in this digital age, is outdated and ignorant. You want your ideas to spread, and you should encourage people to spread your ideas, not put up all kinds of boundaries and restrictions and obstacles to that being done. This blog, for example, is <a href="http://zenhabits.net/2008/01/open-source-blogging-feel-free-to-steal-my-content/">Uncopyrighted</a>, and will always be free, because I want people to spread my posts and ideas. I think it&#8217;s actually good for me as a writer, and it&#8217;s (not insignificantly) better for the writing community in general if we can share each others&#8217; work freely. I&#8217;m hoping that with posts like this, and the good work of thousands of other like-minded people, the old mindset of fencing off ideas and language will slowly change.</p>
<p>So, no, I will not be adding a Registered Trademark symbol to the previous post. And no, I won&#8217;t be adding a phrase of legalese to the post. And no, I won&#8217;t even attribute the phrase or link to her book, as I wasn&#8217;t referring to the book. And no, I won&#8217;t remove the phrase.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather be sued.</p>
<p>Oh, and I&#8217;m not going to change the title of this post either. You&#8217;ll have to remove it from my cold, dead iMac.</p>
<p><strong>On a side note</strong>: You may feel free to use the title of my book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1401309704?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=zenhab-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1401309704">The Power of Less</a>, in any of your blog posts, on Twitter or even (gasp) everyday conversation.</p>
<p>[<a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009859.asp">Cross-posted</a> at Mises blog]</div>
<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 04/27/2009 11:04 PM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Trademark">Trademark</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000978"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=1&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000978">comments(2)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000943">&#8220;Secret intellectual property treaty could profoundly change life on the Internet&#8221;</a></h3>
<div class="post">So argues David Bollier in the post <a href="http://www.onthecommons.org/content.php?id=2408" class="broken_link">Et tu, Obama? Open Government Suffers Another Blow</a>. An excerpt:</p>
<blockquote><p>A government cannot be held accountable if there is a cloak of secrecy around its core deliberations and citizens are excluded from the process. &#8230; So what gives with the Obama administration&#8217;s refusal to share the most basic documents about a pending intellectual property treaty that are widely available among corporate lobbyists in Europe, Japan and the United States?</p>
<p>The Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, or ACTA, may sound arcane, and certainly its corporate champions must wish to make it seem boring and obscure. But in fact, the misleadingly named treaty could dramatically alter the Internet by allowing the film, music, publishing and other industries to aggressively enforce their IP rights, as they broadly construe them, at the expense of citizens, consumers and creators. All this would be achieved through secret deliberations an international version of the smoke-filled room: another brazen disenfranchisement of citizens and trampling of democratic norms.</p>
<p>No official version of the proposed treaty has been released, but it is known that it seeks to set forth standards for enforcing cases of alleged copyright and patent infringement. The treaty also seeks to provide legal authority for the surveillance of Internet file transfers and searches of personal property. Read more about ACTA here and here.</p>
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<p>[<a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009830.asp">Cross-posted</a> at Mises blog]</div>
<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 04/22/2009 11:33 AM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Intellectual+Property">Intellectual Property</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000943"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=1&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000943">comments(1)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000942">8,000 Year Copyright Term Extension</a></h3>
<div class="post"><a href="http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/22/0243258&amp;from=rss">Ancient Books Go Online</a> reports:&#8221;The BBC is reporting that the United Nations&#8217; <a href="http://www.wdl.org/en/">World Digital Library</a> has gone online with an <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8009974.stm">initial offering of 1,200 ancient manuscripts, parchments and documents</a>. To no great surprise, Europe comes in first with 380 items. South America comes in second with 320, with a very distant third place being given to the Middle East at a paltry 157 texts. This is only the initial round, so the leader board can be expected to change. There are, for example, a lot of Sumerian and Babylonian tablets, many of which are already online elsewhere. Astonishingly, the collection is covered by numerous copyright laws, according to the legal page. Use of material from a given country is subject to whatever restrictions that country places, in addition to any local and international copyright laws. With some of the contributions being over 8,000 years old, this has to be the longest copyright extension ever offered. There is nothing on whether the original artists get royalties, however.&#8221;</div>
<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 04/22/2009 11:20 AM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Copyright">Copyright</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000942"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=1&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000942">comments(0)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000931">Why Copyright Will Delay Online Movie Rentals for Another Twenty Years</a></h3>
<div class="post">This excellent <em>Slate</em> piece, <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2216328/">My Mythical Online Rental Service for Movies: Why Hollywood is so slow to catch up on offering all of its movies and shows online</a>, provides a good explanation of why it&#8217;s going to be AT LEAST 10 YEARS before we have decent online movies on demand&#8211;and why bittorrent and movie pirating will only continue in popularity.The article explains that, due to the incredibly confusing, complex, and slow-to-change contractual system that locks up and segments movie rights, &#8220;Reed Hastings, Netflix&#8217;s founder, told the Hollywood Reporter last month that it&#8217;ll be 10 years before we see a streaming service that offers any movie at any time.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is all due to a byzantine web of contracts, build up on the foundation of copyright. It&#8217;s truly stunning. I would not be surprised if it&#8217;s 20 years, or more.</p>
<p><strong>Update</strong>: See also Mike Masnick&#8217;s excellent post, <a href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20090420/0233434559.shtml">Would You Rather Renegotiate Your Contracts&#8230; Or See Your Business Collapse?</a></p>
<p>[<a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009822.asp">Cross-posted</a> on Mises Blog.]</div>
<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 04/21/2009 08:26 AM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Copyright">Copyright</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000931"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=1&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000931">comments(9)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000926">EE Times:  Opinion: Engineers should stage a patent strike</a></h3>
<div class="post"><a href="http://www.eetimes.com/rss/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=216600083&amp;cid=RSSfeed_eetimes_newsRSS">Opinion: Engineers should stage a patent strike</a>Rick Merritt (04/20/2009 12:00 AM EDT)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time for engineers to stage an intellectual property strike.</p>
<p>Stop filing patents. Refuse to sign employment contracts that give your employer sole title to your inventions. Don&#8217;t participate in any due diligence efforts on patent portfolios.</p>
<p>Engineers need to organize if this IP strike is to be effective. That will require creating a new organization.</p>
<p>Existing lobby groups on patent issues in the electronics industry represent the views of specific sets of companies, not engineers. Even the IEEE is so diversified in its base that it admits it has not been able to form a crisp consensus on issues like patent reform.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong. I am not saying engineers should stop work in the midst of a recession of historic proportions. I stand with those who say we design ourselves out of downturns by creating compelling products. What I&#8217;m saying is, hands off anything to do with patents.</p>
<p>I admit this is an extreme position and one engineers are unlikely to take up, but that doesn&#8217;t mean a patent strike is the wrong thing to do. In fact, it could be very right.</p>
<p>The patent system is broken, and someone needs to call attention to that fact to spark real change. As the creators of the technology, engineers have the power to command that attention, if they choose to use it.</p>
<p>This is a historic moment to send a message that the patent system needs fixing, because influential leaders are listening. Patent reform is front and center in Congress, and an administration that ran on change is poised to appoint a new director for the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.</p>
<p>Patents are supposed to capture innovations in ways that compel engineers to read them. They are meant to spur designers to creative action, inspiring them to develop novel work-arounds or to license ideas that are too good to pass up.</p>
<p>Sadly, the reality today is just the opposite. Bad policies and practices have coalesced around patents. In this week&#8217;s cover story, we call it <a href="http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=UVQR3CNCQSKEUQSNDLPCKHSCJUNN2JVN?articleID=216800006">mad patent disease</a> [].</p>
<p>Corporate legal departments tell engineers which patents they can and can&#8217;t read. Sometimes engineers are told not to read patents at all, lest they be accused of deliberately infringing someone&#8217;s IP.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, businesspeople of all stripes pressure engineers to file patent applications for every idea. That has spawned a business of litigation and licensing that charges for portfolios by the pound. Companies now wield patents strategically to charge others for the freedom to innovate. In this sick world, patents don&#8217;t spark innovation, they inhibit it.</p>
<p>Quantity has replaced quality, and that has created a mess. Legal departments settle infringement cases in part because they can&#8217;t afford to pay anyone to provide informed opinions about all the patents asserted against them. Thus, portfolios that contain a lot of junk can still command a premium.</p>
<p>As the premiums rise, more people file more patents to defend against the madness or to get their share of the IP bucks. The result is a patent office up to its ears in a backlog approaching a million applications, sitting in a pile three years deep.</p>
<p>Patents should have a reasonable value for their owners and users. They should be available to all on a timely basis so they can encourage innovation, not stifle it.</p>
<p>Engineers need to speak up in a loud and clear voice about what&#8217;s wrong. If they don&#8217;t, I suspect the lawyers and corporate managers who have gotten us into today&#8217;s mess will continue to build on the upside-down bubble market for patents they have created.</p>
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<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000801">David Gordon Reviews Boldrin-Levine</a></h3>
<div class="post">Great <a href="http://mises.org/misesreview_detail.aspx?control=354">review</a> of <em>Against Intellectual Monopoly</em> by the powerhouse libertarian reviewer, David Gordon, in the recent issue of <em>Mises Review</em>.</div>
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<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000782">Free Talk Live&#8211;on Patent Alternatives in Medicine</a></h3>
<div class="post">The <a href="http://media.libsyn.com/media/ftl/FTL2009-03-30.mp3">March 30, 2009 episode</a> of Free Talk Live discusses this topic (around 00:11:00).Hat tip to <a href="http://www.snapitalism.com/">Manuel Lora</a>.</div>
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<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000722">IP Vices and Crimes</a></h3>
<div class="post">Fantastic <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009632.asp">post</a> by Jeff Tucker at Mises Blog:***</p>
<h1>IP Vices and Crimes</h1>
<p>March 18, 2009  8:51 AM</p>
<p>The 18 or so articles I&#8217;ve written about &#8220;intellectual property&#8221;&#8211;elaborating on a book I consider to be a seminal work of our epoch, <a href="http://www.mises.org/store/Against-Intellectual-Monopoly-P552.aspx">Against Intellectual Monopoly</a>&#8211;generated floods of email like I&#8217;ve never seen on any topic. The thing that gets people going is the conclusion: in a free market, there should be no legal grants of patent or copyright.</p>
<p>What many people do&#8211;and this is rather depressing from the point of view of a writer&#8211;is seize on the conclusion, ignore the reasoning and arguments, and then attempt an instantaneous, arm-chair refutation.</p>
<p>It always goes something like this: &#8220;Oh, you are telling me that I could just steal this article that you wrote, even put my name on it, sell it and take the money, and there would be nothing wrong with doing that?&#8221;</p>
<p>Some go even further to actually do this: put their names on it, post it somewhere, and send me the link.</p>
<p>I think precisely what you are thinking: &#8220;What a jerk!&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what other kind of response they expect from me. They must really think I will say: &#8220;Oh, this is so shocking! I had not considered that someone might actually do this to me if we got rid of the U.S. Copyright Office! My goodness, this kind of thing cannot be tolerated. I was completely wrong in everything I said. I too am grateful to the state for all it does to protect my intellectual creations and my good name.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry to say, this is not my response. My detailed response actually goes as follows: &#8220;If you do that in a free society, you will not be arrested by the police or experience physical coercion blessed by official mandate. However, everyone is free to regard you as a poseur, a wretch, a menace to society, and wholly lacking in credibility. If having a good reputation counts to you, it&#8217;s probably not a good idea to pretend to have written something that you have not in fact written.&#8221;</p>
<p>The difference here comes down to a wonderful distinction that was made by Lysander Spooner in the 19th century. He was careful to explain the difference between a vice and a crime. A crime involves aggressive force or threat of aggressive force against another person or privately owned property. A vice, however, is a much larger category of behaviors that don&#8217;t involve invasion of person or property.</p>
<p>Vices can involve lying, being nasty to others, eating like a pig in public, abusing oneself with drugs or liquor, failing to shower and thereby stinking to high heaven, swearing in public, betraying benefactors, rumor mongering, displaying ingratitude, not keeping commitments, being a shopaholic, being a greedy miser, failing to do what you say you are going to do, making up stories about other people, taking credit for things you didn&#8217;t do, failing to give credit where it is due, and other things along these lines.</p>
<p>In a free society, vice is control through decentralized social enforcement of social, ethical, and religious norms. The great problem of statism is that it turns vices into crimes, and then when the law is repealed, people forget that there are, after all, certain social norms that nonetheless need to be upheld and will be upheld once society is managing itself rather than being managed by the state.</p>
<p>Consider the case of classroom plagiarism, for example. A teacher wrote to me with a concern that the repeal of intellectual property law would make it more difficult to punish students for turning in work that claimed to original but was actually copied from elsewhere. I pointed out that the police and courts are not involved in the enforcement of classroom rules now, so why would a change in federal legislation be any different? Plagiarism is still plagiarism.</p>
<p>IP law has really had the effect of distorting our society&#8217;s sense of all of these matters. It has made everyone too unwilling to admit our dependence on imitation and emulation as institutions that permit and encourage progress. It has made people too shy to copy the success of others and admit to doing so. Writers, artists, entrepreneurs all live with this weird burden of expectation that everything they do must be completely original and they must never draw from others sources. It&#8217;s preposterous!</p>
<p>On the other hand, we are too quick to credit the state for preventing the mass outbreak of old-fashioned vice. Even without copyright and patent, some kinds of behaviors and practices will remain shoddy, unseemly, ungracious, conniving, and social unacceptable. What, for example, would you say about a local author who claim to write a new play that turned out to be written by Shakespeare? Doing this is perfectly legal right now. But the person would be regarded as a lout and a fool for the rest of his life.</p>
<p>Hence, the repeal of &#8220;intellectual property&#8221; law does not mean some sort of crazed free-for-all chaos in which no one can be entirely sure of anyone&#8217;s identity, creations, who wrote what, what company did what, where credit is due, what one&#8217;s commitments are, and the like. What we will gain is a great sense of our moral obligations to each other.</p>
<p>And in the absence of the state&#8217;s grant of monopoly privilege, we will become ever more vigilant in giving credit where it is due. You still have to be a nice person who acts with a sense of fairness, equanimity, and justice, as conventionally understood. If you don&#8217;t, the state will not crack your skull, but you will lose something profoundly important.</p>
<p>In other words, in absence of IP, we gain a greater sense of the distinction between what is vice and what is crime, and a better means for dealing with both.</p>
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<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000653">Study: Free Markets Superior to Patent Monopolies</a></h3>
<div class="post">An ars technica post, <a href="http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2009/03/study-markets-provide-an-alternative-to-patent-monopolies.ars">Study: free markets superior to patent monopolies</a>, reports:</p>
<blockquote><p>Our economic system is based on the expectation that markets can provide optimal solutions more efficiently than monopolies, with one glaring exception: patents, which are structured in a &#8220;winner takes all&#8221; manner. A study appearing in today&#8217;s edition of Science suggests that markets might work here, too.</p>
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<p>Now, I know, there are many problems with even evaluating an IP system on utilitarian grounds; but the purported innovation-spurring effects of an IP system are what its advocates usually claim in support of having it. So it&#8217;s natural to ask: well, where&#8217;s the proof? Never is it provided. Study after study concludes that an IP system&#8217;s costs are about equal to, or greater than, any benefits it provides. (See my <a href="http://www.mises.org/story/1763">There&#8217;s No Such Thing as a Free Patent</a>; <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/007223.asp">What are the Costs of the Patent System?</a>.) So it&#8217;s no wonder yet another study concludes this.</p>
<p>[<a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009552.asp">Cross-posted</a> at Mises Blog.]</div>
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<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000652">IP and Google Books on the iPhone</a></h3>
<div class="post"><a href="http://gizmodo.com/5147977/google-books-on-the-iphone-and-g1-is-almost-kindle+like-and-real-mobile-kindle-may-be-coming-soon">Google Books On The iPhone and G1 Is Almost Kindle-Like (And Real Mobile Kindle May Be Coming Soon)</a> rightly raves about about the <a href="http://books.google.com/m">mobile version of Google Books</a>. It works great on an iPhone (and it turns out the rumors about Kindle coming to the iPhone <a href="http://technologizer.com/2009/03/03/yup-your-iphone-can-be-a-kindle-too-as-of-tomorrow/">were right</a>; see also my LRC post <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/025582.html">Kindle v. Netbook v. ePub, Bookworm and Stanza</a>).However, it turns out that you can only see &#8220;free&#8221; google books in mobile site. For example, on my iPhone I cannot see the 1907 Edith Nesbit book <em>The Enchanted Castle</em> in the <a href="http://books.google.com/m">mobile-optimized version of</a> Google Books. (Try it even from a regular browser, from that mobile site, you&#8217;ll see what I mean.) However, if you go to the regular <a href="http://books.google.com/">Google Books</a> site, you can <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=RLyK7aKR0VoC&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=edith+nesbit+enchanted+castle&amp;ei=NgOwSbKGJ5-4lAT_oIT7Dg">find and read the whole thing</a>&#8211;<em>even on an iPhone</em>. You just can&#8217;t use the mobile-optimized version of Google Books to view it&#8211;even on a computer. So you can read the book on an iPhone, but not in a mobile-optimized format.</p>
<p>I suspect that Google did this because of copyright concerns, as part of their <a href="http://books.google.com/googlebooks/agreement/">deal</a> with publishers&#8211;perhaps it made them carve out something for mobile phones or platforms. It&#8217;s amazing how much copyright law distorts our entire economy.</p>
<p>[<a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009549.asp">Cross-posted</a> at Mises Blog.]</div>
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<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000651">Monsanto v. Google on Patent Reform</a></h3>
<div class="post">In <a href="http://www.patentlyo.com/patent/2009/03/guest-post-monsanto-companys-view-on-patent-reform-protect-innovation.html">this post</a>, Monsanto&#8217;s General Counsel disagrees with Google&#8217;s Head of Patents and General Counsel, who had complained about the risks companies like Google face from huge damage awards in patent lawsuits.I am so tired of patent lawyers and companies with vested interests making the tired old argument that we should not &#8220;weaken&#8221; patent protection because it&#8217;s needed to promote and protect innovation&#8211;without ever once even alluding to the fact that these purported benefits have an accompanying <em>cost</em>, much less demonstrating that the cost is worth the benefit received. (See my <a href="http://www.mises.org/story/1763">There&#8217;s No Such Thing as a Free Patent</a>; <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/007223.asp">What are the Costs of the Patent System?</a>)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d much prefer simple, honest calls for protectionism: Monsanto wants patent protection to remain strong, because they think it benefits their own company&#8211;regardless of the overall effects or costs on other companies or the economy as a whole. Fine, an honest plea for redistribution of wealth.</p>
<p>Note how Monsant just brushes off Google&#8217;s costs and fears:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I respectfully disagree with the recent blog post by Google&#8217;s Head of Patents and General Counsel, commenting on the perceived risks from damage awards in patent cases. Monsanto has faced billion dollar damage claims as a wrongly sued patent defendant and also knows the true benefits from avoiding the encouragement of willful infringement based on a smaller party&#8217;s calculated gain in the face of limited risk of a meaningful award of damages if infringement is established. With full knowledge of all these issues and our substantial alignment with Google and the information technology industry over the legitimate need to curtail patent trolls and a myriad of other concerns &#8211; we encourage thoughtful reform.&#8221;</p>
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<p>Amazing that he just says he &#8220;disagrees&#8221; with Google&#8217;s perception of risks from high damage awards in patent cases&#8211;even as it admits Monsanto <em>has faced billion dollar damage claims in wrongful patent suits</em>. Does it occur to this gentleman that perhaps not every company is comfortable facing the risk of wrongful billion dollar patent claims?</p>
<p>[<a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009546.asp">Cross-posted</a> at Mises Blog]</div>
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<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000646">Driving Innovation</a></h3>
<div class="post">Patent Baristas has a <a href="http://www.patentbaristas.com/archives/2009/03/02/book-review-monday-driving-innovation/">Book Review</a> of the new book <em>Driving Innovation</em>. It&#8217;s interesting to me that patent lawyers seem to be beginning to begrudgingly acknowledge that the patent system has costs:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The duality of intellectual property is that it is a source of wealth and a source of an equal and opposite cost. That is, IP brings wealth only through a hidden tax whether on competitors or consumers. So it is with IP rights, they inherently set up a tension between the pharmaceutical company enforcing rights and the patients wanting greater (read: less costly) access to medicine. A technology company wants to build and market a product but is forced to pay licensing fees to a patent holder.&#8221;</p>
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<p>What is bizarre here is the blithe assumption that the costs of IP are &#8220;equal and opposite&#8221; to its benefits. First, they can never be equal, due to the subjective, ordinal, and interpersonally incomparable nature of value. Second, even if they can be compared, there&#8217;s no reason to think that they are equal&#8211;one is likely to be greater than the other. Third, even if you assume they are equal&#8211;then why have an IP system? I mean why even bother, if it all balances out? (See my <a href="http://www.mises.org/story/1763">There&#8217;s No Such Thing as a Free Patent</a>; <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/007223.asp">What are the Costs of the Patent System?</a>)</p>
<p>But even though they acknowledge the system has costs that might offset or even exceed the purported benefits, do they want to probe into whether IP is legitimate or should exist? No, explicitly not: &#8220;This book is not about what the IP should be or how it could be changed but is about how to survive in a global system when IP rights have developed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah well, baby steps.</p>
<p>[<a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009535.asp">Cross-posted</a> at Mises Blog.]</div>
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<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000616">Ludwig von Mises on Intellectual Property</a></h3>
<div class="post">Some here might be interested in the remarks on IP by the greatest economist of all time (though Boldrin and Levine will no doubt disagree with this characterization!), Mises:In this <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009499.asp#comment-504776">comment</a> on a post here, I was accused of hiding or avoiding mention of one of Mises&#8217;s comments about copyrights and patents. I suppose the commentor was unaware of my extensive quotes of Mises in <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009334.asp#comment-497179">this comment</a> on another thread, which quoted a large deal of Mises&#8217;s remarks on IP, including the one in question. So much for suppression. Since this extensive comment is buried on a thread, I reprint it below as a standalone post.</p>
<p>As I noted in <a href="http://mises.org/books/against.pdf">Against Intellectual Property</a> (n. 38), &#8220;Mises expressed no opinion on the issue, merely drawing the economic implications from the presence or absence of such laws.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here are <a href="http://mises.org/humanaction/chap23sec6.asp">Mises&#8217;s words</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The External Economies of Intellectual Creation</p>
<p>The extreme case of external economies is shown in the &#8220;production&#8221; of the intellectual groundwork of every kind of processing and constructing. The characteristic mark of formulas, i.e., the mental devices directing the technological procedures, is the inexhaustibility of the services they render. These services are consequently not scarce, and there is no need to economize their employment. Those considerations that resulted in the establishment of the institution of private ownership of economic goods did not refer to them. They remained outside the sphere of private property not because they are immaterial, intangible, and impalpable, but because their serviceableness cannot be exhausted.</p>
<p>People began to realize only later that this state of affairs has its drawbacks too. It places the producers of such formulas&#8211;especially the inventors of technological procedures and authors and composers&#8211;in a peculiar position. They are burdened with the cost of production, while the services of the product they have created can be gratuitously enjoyed by everybody. What they produce is for them entirely or almost entirely external economies.</p>
<p><em>If there are neither copyrights nor patents, the inventors and authors are in the position of an entrepreneur. They have a temporary advantage as against other people. As they start sooner in utilizing their invention or their manuscript themselves or in making it available for use to other people (manufacturers or publishers), they have the chance to earn profits in the time interval until everybody can likewise utilize it. As soon as the invention or the content of the book are publicly known, they become &#8220;free goods&#8221; and the inventor or author has only his glory.</em></p>
<p>The problem involved has nothing to do with the activities of the creative genius. These pioneers and originators of things unheard of do not produce and work in the sense in which these terms are employed in dealing with the affairs of other people. They do not let themselves be influenced by the response their work meets on the part of their contemporaries. They do not wait for encouragement.[13]</p>
<p>It is different with the broad class of professional intellectuals whose services society cannot do without. We may disregard the problem of second-rate authors of poems, fiction, and plays and second-rate composers and need not inquire whether it would be a serious disadvantage for mankind to lack the products of their efforts. But it is obvious that handing down knowledge to the rising generation and [p. 662] familiarizing the acting individuals with the amount of knowledge they need for the realization of their plans require textbooks, manuals, handbooks, and other nonfiction works. It is unlikely that people would undertake the laborious task of writing such publications if everyone were free to reproduce them. This is still more manifest in the field of technological invention and discovery. The extensive experimentation necessary for such achievements is often very expensive. It is very probable that technological progress would be seriously retarded if, for the inventor and for those who defray the expenses incurred by his experimentation, the results obtained were nothing but external economies.</p>
<p><em>Patents and copyrights are results of the legal evolution of the last centuries. Their place in the traditional body of property rights is still controversial. </em> People look askance at them and deem them irregular. They are considered privileges, a vestige of the rudimentary period of their evolution when legal protection was accorded to authors and investors only by virtue of an exceptional privilege granted by the authorities. They are suspect, as they are lucrative only if they make it possible to sell at <em>monopoly prices</em>. [14]. Moreover, the fairness of patent laws is contested on the ground that they reward only those who put the finishing touch leading to practical utilization of achievements of many predecessors. these precursors go empty-handed although their main contribution to the final result was often much more weighty than that of the patentee.</p>
<p><em>It is beyond the scope of catallactics to enter into an examination of the arguments brought forward for and against the institution of copyrights and patents.</em> It has merely to stress the point that this is a problem of delimitation of property rights and that with the abolition of patents and copyrights authors and inventors would for the most part be producers of external economies.</p>
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<p>and  <a href="http://mises.org/humanaction/chap7sec3.asp">here</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Creative Genius</p>
<p>Far above the millions that come and pass away tower the pioneers, the men whose deeds and ideas cut out new paths for mankind. For the pioneering genius [12] to create is the essence of life. To live means for him to create.</p>
<p>The activities of these prodigious men cannot be fully subsumed under the praxeological concept of labor. They are not labor because they are for the genius not means, but ends in themselves. He lives in creating and inventing. For him there is not leisure, only intermissions of temporary sterility and frustration. His incentive is not the desire to bring about a result, but the act of producing it. The accomplishment gratifies him neither mediately nor immediately. It does not gratify him mediately because his fellow men at best are unconcerned about it, more often even greet it with taunts, sneers, and persecution. Many a genius could have used his gifts to render his life agreeable and joyful; he did not even consider such a possibility and chose the thorny path without hesitation. The genius wants to accomplish what he considers his mission, even if he knows that he moves toward his own disaster.</p>
<p>Neither does the genius derive immediate gratification from his creative activities. Creating is for him agony and torment, a ceaseless excruciating struggle against internal and external obstacles; it consumes and crushes him. The Austrian poet Grillparzer has depicted this in a touching poem &#8220;Farewell to Gastein.&#8221; [13] We may assume that in writing it he thought not only of his own sorrows and tribulations but also of the greater sufferings of a much greater man, of Beethoven, whose fate resembled his own and whom he understood, through devoted affection and sympathetic appreciation, better than any other of his contemporaries. Nietzsche compared himself to the flame that insatiably consumes and destroys itself.[14] Such agonies are phenomena which have nothing in common with the connotations generally attached to the notions of work and labor, production and success, breadwinning and enjoyment of life.</p>
<p><em>The achievements of the creative innovator, his thoughts and theories, his poems, paintings, and compositions, cannot be classified praxeologically as products of labor. They are not the outcome of [p. 140] the employment of labor which could have been devoted to the production of other amenities for the &#8220;production&#8221; of a masterpiece of philosophy, art, or literature. </em> Thinkers, poets, and artists are sometimes unfit to accomplish any other work. At any rate, the time and toil which they devote to creative activities are not withheld from employment for other purposes. Conditions may sometimes doom to sterility a man who would have had the power to bring forth things unheard of; they may leave him no alternative other than to die from starvation or to use all his forces in the struggle for mere physical survival. But if the genius succeeds in achieving his goals, nobody but himself pays the &#8220;costs&#8221; incurred. Goethe was perhaps in some respects hampered by his functions at the court of Weimar. But certainly he would not have accomplished more in his official duties as minister of state, theater manager, and administrator of mines if he had not written his plays, poems, and novels.</p>
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<p>and  <a href="http://mises.org/humanaction/chap16sec6.asp">here</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The special conditions and circumstances required for the <em>emergence of monopoly prices</em> and their catallactic features are: &#8230;  11. The <em>monopolized good by whose partial withholding from the market the monopoly prices are made to prevail</em> can be either a good of the lowest order or a good of a higher order, a factor of production. It may consist in the control of the technological knowledge required for production, the &#8220;recipe.&#8221; Such recipes are as a rule free goods as their ability to produce definite effects is unlimited. They can become economic goods only if they are monopolized and their use is restricted. Any price paid for the services rendered by a recipe is always a monopoly price. It is immaterial whether the restriction of a recipe&#8217;s use is made possible by institutional conditions&#8211;<em>such as patents and copyright laws</em>&#8211;or by the fact that a formula is kept secret and other people fail to guess it.</p>
<p>The complementary factor of production the monopolization of which can result in the establishment of monopoly prices may also consist in a man&#8217;s opportunity to make his cooperation in the production of a good known to consumers who attribute to this cooperation a special significance. This opportunity may be given either by the nature of the commodities or services in question or by institutional provisions such as protection of trademarks. The reasons why the consumers value the contribution of a man or a firm so highly are manifold. They may be: special confidence placed on the individual or firm concerned on account of previous experience[15]; merely baseless prejudice or error; snobbishness; magic or metaphysical prepossessions whose groundlessness is ridiculed by more reasonable people. A drug marked by a trademark may not differ in its chemical structure and its physiological efficacy from other compounds not marked with the same label. However, if the buyers attach a special significance to this label and are ready to pay higher prices for the [p. 365] product marked with it, the seller can, provided the configuration of demand is propitious, reap monopoly prices.</p>
<p>The monopoly which enables the monopolist to restrict the amount offered without counteraction on the part of other people can consist in the greater productivity of a factor which he has at his disposal as against the lower productivity of the corresponding factor at the disposal of his potential competitors. If the margin between the higher productivity of his supply of the monopolized factor and that of his potential competitors is broad enough for the emergence of a monopoly price, a situation results which we may call margin monopoly[16].</p>
<p>&#8230; In the long run such a national cartel cannot preserve its monopolistic position if entrance into its branch of production is free to newcomers. The monopolized factor the services of which the cartel restricts (as far as the domestic market is concerned) for the sake of monopoly prices is a geographical condition which can easily be duplicated by every new investor who establishes a new plant within the borders of Atlantis. Under modern industrial conditions, the characteristic feature of which is steady technological progress, the latest plant will as a rule be more efficient than the older plants and produce at lower average costs. The incentive to prospective newcomers is therefore twofold. It consists not only in the monopoly gain of the cartel members, but also in the possibility of outstripping them by lower costs of production.</p>
<p><em>Here again institutions come to the aid of the old firms that form the cartel. The patents give them a legal monopoly which nobody may infringe. </em> Of course, only some of their production processes may be protected by patents. But a competitor who is prevented from resorting to these processes and to the production of the articles concerned may be handicapped in such a serious way that he cannot consider entrance into the field of the cartelized industry.</p>
<p><em>The owner of a patent enjoys a legal monopoly which, other conditions being propitious, can be used for the attainment of monopoly prices. </em> Beyond the field covered by the patent itself a patent may render auxiliary services in the establishment and preservation of margin monopoly where the primary institutional conditions for the emergence of such a monopoly prevail.</p>
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<p>and  <a href="http://mises.org/humanaction/chap18sec6.asp#p510">here</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Another popular fallacy refers to the alleged suppression of useful patents. <em>A patent is a legal monopoly granted for a limited number of years to the inventor of a new contrivance. At this point we are not concerned with the question whether or not it is a good policy to grant such exclusive privileges to inventors.[14] </em> We have to deal only with the assertion that &#8220;big business&#8221; misuses the patent system to withhold from the public benefits it could derive from technological improvement.</p>
<p>In granting a patent to an inventor the authorities do not investigate the invention&#8217;s economic significance. They are concerned merely with the priority of the idea and limit their examination to technological problems. They deal with the same impartial scrupulousness with an invention which revolutionizes a whole industry and with some trifling gadget, the uselessness of which is obvious. Thus <em>patent protection is provided to a vast number of quite worthless inventions</em>. Their authors are ready to overrate the importance of their contribution to the progress of technological knowledge and build exaggerated hopes upon the material gain it could bring them. <em>Disappointed, they grumble about the absurdity of an economic system that deprives the people of the benefit of technological progress. </em></p>
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<p>and  <a href="http://mises.org/humanaction/chap24sec3.asp#p680">here</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The convincing power of the productivity argument is in fact so irresistible that the advocates of socialism were forced to abandon their old tactics and to resort to new methods. They are eager to divert attention from the productivity issue by throwing into relief the monopoly problem. All contemporary socialist manifestoes expatiate on monopoly power. Statesmen and professors try to outdo one another in depicting the evils of monopoly. Our age is called the age of monopoly capitalism. The foremost argument advanced today in favor of socialism is the reference to monopoly.</p>
<p>Now, it is true that the emergence of monopoly prices (not of monopoly as such without monopoly prices) creates a discrepancy between the interests of the monopolist and those of the consumers. The monopolist does not employ the monopolized good according to the wishes of the consumers. As far as there are monopoly prices, the interests of the monopolists take precedence over those of the public and the democracy of the market is restricted. with regard to monopoly prices there is not harmony, but conflict of interests.</p>
<p>It is possible to contest these statements with regard to the monopoly prices received in the sale of articles under patents and copyrights. One may argue that in the absence of patent and copyright legislation these books, compositions, and technological innovations would never have come into existence. The public pays monopoly prices for things it would not have enjoyed at all under competitive prices. However, we may fairly disregard this issue. It has little to do with the great monopoly controversy of our day. When people deal with the evils of monopoly, they imply that there prevails within the unhampered [p. 681] market economy a general and inevitable tendency toward the substitution of monopoly prices for competitive prices. This is, they say, a characteristic mark of &#8220;mature&#8221; or &#8220;late&#8221; capitalism. Whatever conditions may have been in the earlier stages of capitalist evolution and whatever one may think about the validity of the classical economists&#8217; statements concerning the harmony of the rightly understood interests, today there is no longer any question of such a harmony.</p>
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<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 02/24/2009 02:03 PM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Intellectual+Property">Intellectual Property</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000616"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=2&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000616">comments(0)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000615">Copyrighting Dance Steps&#8211;A Note from A Choreographer</a></h3>
<div class="post">Note from a reader (see also my post <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/006283.asp">Copyrights and Dancing</a>):Dear Mr. Kinsella,</p>
<p>I have yet to read your book or the Boldrin and Levine book, but just reading your blog posts [e.g. <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000613">There are No Good Arguments for Intellectual Property</a>; <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000590">What's Wrong with Theft?</a>] and the discussions they generate has convinced me of your position. It seems to me that the only question worth considering is Are ideas property? If an IP proponent could give a good answer to this question, we could have a good debate. But <strong>the replies to your argument seem desperate and incoherent</strong>.  I&#8217;m an amateur choreographer so I know that IP is not necessary for creation. Dancers take movement where ever we can find it. The first person to get a copyright on walking would own the dance community and the world, in fact. <strong>The first routine I put together used movement from several other performers. If IP were to apply to dance, all dance communities would die the next day.</strong> The dance community is experiencing the wrath of IP regarding music, however. We have had problems with the music that we use. Promoters who videotape our performances are reluctant to sell the DVDs because the artists might sue the promoters if their music is used. YouTube is censoring videos in which it can recognize the music in the background. I find this ridiculous. If I have already paid my $0.99 for your song and created a visual expression of the music, from whence do you get the right to now &#8220;own&#8221; my expression of your song? I think that my dance experience instilled in me a skepticism about IP, <strong>but still I find your intellectual arguments indisputable</strong>.</p>
<p>Yours,</p>
<p>[C.E.]</p>
<p>[<a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009502.asp">cross-posted</a> on Mises Blog]</div>
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<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000613">There Are No Good Arguments for Intellectual Property (and &#8220;Interaction Rights&#8221;!)</a></h3>
<div class="post">There are some decent arguments out there that argue in favor of a state, welfare rights, war, democracy, drug laws, and so on. They are all flawed, since libertarianism is right, but there are coherent, honest arguments that we libertarians have to grapple with.But it is striking that there are <em>no</em> decent arguments for IP&#8211;as Manuel Lora remarked to me, &#8220;You know, I haven&#8217;t seen a good pro IP article ever.&#8221; This is true. One sees the same incoherent or insincere claims made over and over, such as:</p>
<ol>
<li>It&#8217;s in the constitution (argument from authority; legal positivism)</li>
<li>Intellectual property is <em>called</em> property! (argument by definition?)</li>
<li>No movies would be made and kids would die without medicine (artworks and medicine have been produced for ages without IP law; and where&#8217;s the evidence?)</li>
<li>If you &#8220;create&#8221; something you own it (despite all the exceptions, and despite the fact that creation is neither necessary nor sufficient for ownership; despite the fact that you either limit these rights in scope or time arbitrarily, or you extent them to infinity, choking off rights in real things and forcing life and commerce to a screeching halt)</li>
<li>It generates net wealth&#8211;more value than its cost (no evidence, ever, for this contention&#8211;just assumptions; not to mention the problem of utilitarian summing of values)</li>
<li>IP infringement is &#8220;theft&#8221; (even though the owner still has his property and ideas, and even though IP infringement is just learning and emulating)</li>
<li>People &#8220;could&#8221; create variants of IP via private contracts&#8230; therefore artifical patent granting bureaucracies legislated by a criminal state are &#8230; justified?)</li>
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<p>There are other arguments, I suppose, but they are so incoherent as to defy description. They often involve crankish initial caps, like Property and Rights, the Internet equivalent of crayons.</p>
<p>I have truly never seen a coherent, good argument for IP. The advocates are either utilitarian, with all the problems that accompany that (not to mention they never have any evidence for their claims); or the advocate a more &#8220;principled&#8221;, rights-based type of IP that, if taken seriously, would completely undermine all real property rights and make life on earth impossible, so they retreat from this and impose arbitrary, senseless limits on it. What a kluge.</p>
<p>In a recent discussion, <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009486.asp">What&#8217;s Wrong With Theft?</a>, one of the IP advocates, when pushed into a corner, ended up arguing that rights to own property include the right to control all &#8220;access to&#8221; and &#8220;interactions with&#8221; one&#8217;s property&#8211;and that &#8220;interactions&#8221; include observing or knowing about or learning facts about the things owned by someone, and that when you use this knowledge you are &#8220;interacting with&#8221; the property, and thus &#8220;stealing&#8221; it (even though the owner still has it). So here we have it: IP means &#8220;interaction rights.&#8221; Wow. This is how kooky all IP arguments ultimately are.</div>
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<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000590">What&#8217;s Wrong with Theft?</a></h3>
<div class="post">As I noted in <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000542">Copypats</a>, many non-specialists and proponents of IP erroneously believe that <em>copying</em> is an element of patent infringement&#8211;they conceive of the typical patent infringer as some bad guy who knocked off, or &#8220;stole,&#8221; the patentee-inventor&#8217;s idea. They are usually unaware that proving copying is neither necessary nor sufficient to prove patent infringement. It&#8217;s not necessary because even an independent inventor can be guilty of patent infringement. It&#8217;s not sufficient because the patent may be invalid, or the copier may make changes to &#8220;design around&#8221; the patented invention (which is encouraged by patent policy&#8211;that&#8217;s one reason the patent is published).But it is common to charge the patent infringer, especially the idea <em>copier</em>, with <em>theft</em>&#8211;he <em>stole</em> the idea, it is said. But if we think about standard cases of theft that we all agree are criticizeable, what is it about them that we object to? Is it that the thief now has a bicycle? Or is it that the owner now doesn&#8217;t have his bicycle?</p>
<p>Of course it is the latter. If you have a bike, or car, or log cabin, or corn crop, and I could gaze at it from afar, blink my eyes, and conjur up a similar bike, car, cabin, or crop for myself, I do not steal your things. But if I take your bike or car from you, or oust you from home and farm, you no longer have the things you formerly possessed and owned. <em>That</em> is the damage done to you by theft. This corresponds nicely to the very nature and function of property rights: the need for them arises when people need to use scarce resources as means to act in the world, and appropriate unowned ones. The scarce nature of these things is such that use by one person excludes that by another; the goods are rivalrous. (More on this in <a href="http://www.mises.org/story/2291">How We Come to Own Ourselves</a>; <a href="http://www.anti-state.com/article.php?article_id=312">Defending Argumentation Ethics</a>; <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/006000.asp">Owning Thoughts and Labor</a>.)</p>
<p>But <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009357.asp">copying or</a> <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009300.asp">emulating</a> someone else&#8217;s idea is not &#8220;taking&#8221; it from them; it is not theft. The originator of a given pattern still has his idea, and is free to use it in guiding his action and using or transforming his own property. This is why all arguments in favor of IP (and reputation rights) ultimately end up falling prey to the notion that there are property rights in the value of property, rather than in its physical integrity. But this view is fallacious, as shown by <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/007614.asp">Hoppe</a> and others.</div>
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<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000574">Another Reason to Diss Lincoln</a></h3>
<div class="post"><a href="http://www.patentbaristas.com/archives/2009/02/16/monday-book-review-lincoln-the-inventor/">Lincoln the Patentee</a>.</div>
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<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000570">Newton and IP</a></h3>
<div class="post">I&#8217;m reading a great book, <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Einsteins-Mistakes-Human-Failings-Genius/dp/0393062937">Einstein&#8217;s Mistakes</a></em> (<a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=rht_XW3XmkgC&amp;printsec=frontcover">google version</a>), by Hans Ohanian. Extremely intelligent physicist and fun writer&#8211;very opinionated and spins great narratives of Galileo and Newton as a prelude to discussing Einstein. The book is about all the mistakes Einstein made in his discoveries and papers, how he made his great insights sometimes despite the mistakes, and even sometimes because of them.Ohanian acknowledges Isaac Newton as &#8220;the greatest physicist of all times&#8221; and &#8220;the greatest genius the world has ever known&#8221;, albeit a &#8220;mad scientist&#8221; and &#8220;the most awesome and the most aful physicist of all times.&#8221; I was struck by this fascinating account of Newton&#8217;s views on credit for scientific discoveries (pp. 62-63):</p>
<blockquote><p>Newton held the odd notion that whenever he discovered some new result in physics or mathematics, it became his personal property, which he was entitled to keep as a secret for as long as he chose, without any need to publish it to establish his priority. If another scientists later made the same discovery independently and published it first, Newton regarded this as trespass and as theft, and he would indignantly refuse to allow such a scientist any share of the credit. &#8230; In Newton&#8217;s days, the criterion for credit for a discovery was not yet rigidly established. Claims for unpublished discoveries were sometimes accepted, especially if the scientist had the vociferous support of influential friends and patrons&#8211;sometimes the early bird got the worm, and sometimes the squeaky wheel got the grease.</p>
<p>Newton&#8217;s secretiveness about his discoveries led him into many silly but savage disputes with other scientists about what they knew and when they knew it. Driven by his intense paranoia about his scientific accomplishments, he accused Robert Hooke, Gottfried Leibniz, and other scientists and mathematicians of stealing ideas from him. In his treatment of these scientists he was vicious and vindictive. Hooke was a talented scientist, best known for his investigations with microscopes, but he was a dwarfish man, with a stooped back. When Hooke asked for an acknowledgment that he had anticipated some of Newton&#8217;s investigations of the colors in sunlight, Newton wrote a sarcastic refusal, in which he made an oblique reference to Hooke&#8217;s diminutive size: &#8220;If I have seen farther, it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants.&#8221;</p>
<p>The German mathematician and philosopher Leibniz discovered the calculus independently, and, in contrast to Newton, he published his discoveries&#8211;by the modern criterion, Leibniz would have had full credit for the calculus and Newton none. But when Leibniz asked a committee of the Royal Society to prepare an impartial report judging his share in the invention of the calculus, Newton not only packed the committee with his cronies, but he also wrote the report himself, and then wrote a favorable anonymous review of the report. In his private journal he gleefully recorded that he had bested Leibniz and &#8220;broke his heart.&#8221;</p>
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<p>As can be seen from these remarks, Ohanian is delightfully opinionated.  For other examples, see his <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=rht_XW3XmkgC&amp;pg=PA39&amp;lpg=PA39&amp;dq=hans+ohanian+einstein%27s+mistakes+aristotle&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=Uss5K3SQqe&amp;sig=MyA0XnEDH-HxafqyBB-HKVKZclg&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=NN6TSYCkJNLjtgfw-PyGBg&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;resnum=1&amp;ct=result#PPA39,M1">snarky coments on Aristotle</a> (pp. 39-40), where he says that Aristotle was popular because middle ages scholars confused quantity with quality&#8211;he ridicules Aristotle&#8217;s misconceptions about the animal kingdom, and his assertions about the speed of falling bodies being proportional to their weight, without ever simply dropping two different weight objects from his hands to test out this theory. On p. xii, he acerbically criticizes botched translations of Einstein&#8217;s German writings; on p. xi, he refers to the mistakes &#8220;misguided souls imagine they perceive in [Einstein's] theories of special and general relativity&#8221;; on p. 9 and elsewhere he skewers Creationists as adherents of &#8220;delusional pseudoscientific theories&#8221;; and on p. 59 he refers offhandedly to &#8220;the usual eccentricities of Englishmen.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I love this comment about Galileo: according to Ohanian, &#8220;Galileo had a talent for making enemies&#8211;as Koestler said, he provoked &#8216;the cold, unrelenting hostility which genius plus arrogance minus humility creates among mediocrities.&#8217;&#8221; (p. 40)</p>
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<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000543">Trademark versus Copyright and Patent, or: Is All IP Evil?</a></h3>
<div class="post">I think we can all now agree that copyright and patent are evil and should be abolished (hey, if they can say we are all Keynsians now&#8230;).But what about other forms of IP, such as trademark? One problem is that IP is not really property at all, and is just an umbrella term linking distinct, mostly artificial, positive rights created by the legislature out of thin air&#8211;&#8221;legally recognized rights arising from some type of intellectual creativity, or that are otherwise related to ideas.&#8221; (<a href="http://mises.org/books/against.pdf"><em>Against Intellectual Property</em></a>, p. 9.)</p>
<p>Thus patent gives a monopoly to a way of using, or configuration of, practical, useful devices (inventions); while copyright gives a monopoly to certain uses of original creative patterns of information (works of authorship like novels or paintings). While trademark protects a set of rights clustered around one&#8217;s reputation (but then, so do defamation laws); and trade secret is more like a type of contractual right to keep people from revealing secret information.</p>
<p><strong>Bad Connections</strong></p>
<p>From what I&#8217;ve seen, it is clear to most activist-opponents of IP that copyright and patent are terrible. But it is not so clear what is wrong with other types of IP, such as trade secret and trademark. What about these, and other rights, such as various other trademark-related rights (rights against &#8220;trademark dilution,&#8221; certain forms of cybersquatting, and various &#8220;unfair competition&#8221; claims); mask work protection available for semiconductor integrated circuit (IC) designs, boat hull designs, and (proposed) rights in databases, or collections of information? (See <a href="http://mises.org/books/against.pdf"><em>Against Intellectual Property</em></a>, p. 13, summarizing various types of IP.)</p>
<p>The &#8220;intellectual&#8221; part of IP improperly lumps together conceptually distinct types of laws; and &#8220;propery&#8221; improperly begs the question. So these must be treated in turn. Mask work, boat hull, and database rights are very similar to copyright at least in what is problematic about them; so they, too, like patent and copyright, are obviously unjust.</p>
<p>As for trade secret&#8211;I deal with this in a short section (pp. 56-57) of <a href="http://mises.org/books/against.pdf"><em>Against Intellectual Property</em></a>, as the bulk of the article deals with copyright and patent, and trade secret law is not nearly as problematic.</p>
<p><strong>Trademark</strong></p>
<p>So we come to trademark. I deal with this on pp. 58-59 of <a href="http://mises.org/books/against.pdf"><em>Against Intellectual Property</em></a>, and also in some detail in <a href="http://www.mises.org/journals/jls/18_2/18_2_3.pdf">Reply to Van Dun: Non-Aggression and Title Transfer</a> (esp. pp. 59-63). In my view, the new-fangled extensions of trademark law&#8211;rights against &#8220;trademark dilution&#8221; and cybersquatting, etc.&#8211;are obviously invalid. Further, federal trademark law is problematic since it is not authorized in the Constitution (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Clause">copyright and patent are</a>, but not trademark; trademark relies on the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commerce_Clause">Interstate Commerce Clause</a>, and thus the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanham_act">federal trademark law</a> only covers trademark connected to interstate commerce, and does not preempt state law, so that state trademark law still governs many intra-state situations).</p>
<p>But even if federal trademark law were abolished, as well as modern extensions such as rights against trademark dilution, even common law trademark is problematic, for three primary reasons. First, it is enforced by the state, which gets everything wrong. Second (see First), the test of &#8220;consumer confusion&#8221; is usually applied ridiculously, treating consumers like indiscriminating idiots. Third, and worst of all, the right at issue is the right of the <em>defrauded consumer</em>, not the competitor. Trademark law ought to be reformed by abolishing the right of trademark &#8220;owners&#8221; to sue &#8220;infringers&#8221; (except perhaps as proxy for customers, when consent can be presumed or proved), and treating this as a case of the customer&#8217;s right to sue a vendor who defrauds him as to the nature of the good purchased. Some might argue that this is only a minor change, but it is not: such a change would make it clear that &#8220;knockoffs&#8221; are usually not a violation of anyone&#8217;s rights: the buyer of a $10 &#8220;Rolex&#8221; is almost never defrauded&#8211;he knows what he&#8217;s getting. Yet by giving an enforceable trademark right to the user of a mark, he can sue knockoff companies even though their customers are not defrauded and in fact are perfectly happy to buy the knockoff products.</p>
<p>By the way, examples of trademark abuse are legion. It&#8217;s not only copyright and patent that give rise to outrageous examples of injustice. See, e.g., Chip Wood, <a href="http://list.soundpub.com/subscribe/archive/BeerBrewer.html" class="broken_link">A Bully-Boy Beer Brewer</a>; Justin Levine, <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=233">9th Circuit Appeals Court Says Its Ok To Criticize Trademarks After All</a>, <em>Against Monopoly</em> (09/26/2007); Kinsella, <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/006957.asp">Trademarks and Free Speech</a>, <em>Mises Blog</em> (Aug. 8, 2007); Kinsella, <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/006398.asp">Beemer must be next&#8230; (BMW, Trademarks, and the letter &#8220;M&#8221;)</a>, <em>Mises Blog</em> (Mar. 20, 2007); Kinsella, <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/006131.asp">Hypocritical Apple (Trademark)</a>, <em>Mises Blog</em> (Jan. 11, 2007); <a href="http://ip-updates.blogspot.com/2008/02/ecj-parmesian-infringes-pdo-for.html">ECJ: &#8220;Parmesian&#8221; Infringes PDO for &#8220;Parmigiano Reggiano&#8221;</a>, <em>I/P Updates</em> (Feb. 27, 2008); <a href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20080331/134624706.shtml">Engadget Mobile Threatened For Using T-Mobile&#8217;s Trademarked Magenta</a>, <em>Techdirt</em> (Mar. 31, 2008).</p>
<p>Now IP proponents often assume trademark law is unproblematic, and then try to lump types of IP together, so that they stand or fall together. For example it could be argued that if you are for reputation, then you must be for trademark; and if you are for trademark, you must be for &#8220;intellectual property&#8221;; and thus, you cannot be opposed to IP in principle, so you cannot oppose copyright and patent. (See, e.g., the comments <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009414.asp#comment-500262">here</a>, making this argument.)</p>
<p>Now one fallacy of this argument is that it relies on the positive law conceptual grouping of different areas of artificial, legislated law to make its point. But there is no reason one has to favor the validity of copyright or patent law, even if one supported trademark law, say. Each has different defects and a different nature.</p>
<p>The other fallacy is the view at work here that there is no such thing as reputation, or even identity, absent trademark law. But this is incorrect. Of course people and firms can have reputations even if trademark law is nonexistent. All that is required is that people be able to identify other people and firms, and communicate. Pro-trademark arguments often implicitly assume that this is not possible, absent state-enforced trademark law, which is ridiculous. For example, how can there be fraud (as in my theory), if the vendor is free to call himself whatever he wants? What if Joe Schmoe sets up a knockoff McDonald&#8217;s restaurant? Well, it <em>is</em> McDonald&#8217;s&#8211;that&#8217;s what it calls itself, and the &#8220;real&#8221; McDonald&#8217;s can&#8217;t stop it without trademark rights&#8211;so why is it fraud? Well, because the consumer is (per assumption) deceived as to the nature of the goods he is buying. As I argued in <a href="http://www.mises.org/journals/jls/18_2/18_2_3.pdf">Reply to Van Dun</a> (pp. 62-63),</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;this response would be easy to overcome. <em>It need only be possible for the customer to adequately identify what the condition is.</em> Language is not infinitely malleable, and communication is (undeniably) possible. If pressed, the customer could specify that the purchase is conditioned on the current store he is in being owned by the same [McDonald's] company first started at such and such date and address, and so on. There is no reason it would be impossible to identify a given vendor without traditional trademark law, just as it is not impossible to identify fellow humans, despite the fact that we do not usually have trademarks on our names (in fact often have identical names, e.g. John Smith).</p>
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<p>The other thing to realize is that consumers are not stupid. They can spot a knockoff easily. And the trademark frauds are usually going to be marginal low-life types, who could never compete with a legitimate business anyway&#8211;the kind of company that makes knockoff Rolexes, which doesn&#8217;t fool its customers.</p>
<p>Consider. You have a successful burger joint, let&#8217;s call it &#8220;Tommy&#8217;s.&#8221; Now, suppose they have no trademark, and other Tommy&#8217;s pop up. So if you want the original Tommy&#8217;s, where do you go? You go to the original Tommy&#8217;s. Which just calls itself <a href="http://www.originaltommys.com/">The Original Tommy&#8217;s</a>. (A similar phenomenon is in Twitter, where some well-known people and celebrities&#8217; names are taken, like dvorak&#8211;so John Dvorak just goes by &#8220;<a href="http://twitter.com/therealdvorak">THErealDVORAK</a>&#8220;. End of problem. No anti-Twittersquatting law needed.)</p>
<p>If some other Tommy&#8217;s tries to deceive customers into thinking it&#8217;s owned by the same guy that owns the original Tommy&#8217;s, then they are eventually going to get sued. Or have only marginal customers as people figure out this new place is run by seedy liars.</p>
<p>The truth is that any legitimate businessman <em>wants to use a unique name</em>. Just like people manage to distinguish their identities, even when they have the same names.</div>
<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 02/11/2009 10:37 PM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Trademark">Trademark</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000543"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=3&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000543">comments(15)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000542">Copypats</a></h3>
<div class="post">In <a href="http://thepriorart.typepad.com/the_prior_art/2009/02/copying-in-patent-law.html">Patent defendants aren&#8217;t copycats. So who&#8217;s the real inventor here?</a>, a great post by IP Reporter Joe Mullin, Mullin describes a new study that shows that most defendants in patent cases are never even accused of copying the plaintiff&#8217;s patent.I replied:</p>
<p>Joe,</p>
<p>Great post. A few comments.</p>
<p>First, you&#8217;re right that the public thinks it&#8217;s about copying; and they are wrong. Likewise, most proponents of IP (outside the self-serving patent bar) seem to have no idea about the details of patent law, yet support it anyway.</p>
<p>Second, the reason copying is not alleged is that, as you note, it&#8217;s irrelevant. And it does not demonstrate willfulness, nor does willfulness require copying. Willfulness means you made a product that infringed on a patent, even after you knew about the patent. But this could happen even if you independently invented your product yourself, then find out about the patent (say, you get a C&amp;D letter), adn you keep selling your product anyway&#8211;you&#8217;re willfully infringing from that point on (so that means damages can be trebled for sales made while willfully infringing). So, copying is not necessary to show willful infringement.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also not sufficient. You might have heard about pinch-gestures on a touchscreen and you put that feature in your product, thus infringing apple&#8217;s patents, albeit unwillfully, since you didn&#8217;t know about the patents.</p>
<p>So, I don&#8217;t think you can conclude that most patent suits don&#8217;t involve copying just b/c copying is not alleged or proven at trial. There might be copying in 25% of the cases, but it&#8217;s only alleged 2% o the time, say. This is b/c when you sue someone for infringement you have to show (a) you have a patent; (b) they are selling a product that contains all of the describd elements in one of the patent&#8217;s claims. Copying is irrelevant.</p>
<p>(Still, I agree that copying is probably present in only a small minority of all patent infringement cases.)</p>
<p>Third: your article makes it clear that it&#8217;s unjust that there is no independent inventor exception. Your piece does not mention, I think, the fact that the worst injustice of all is that not only is there not an exception for someone (A) who later independently invents the same thing that B invented first and patented first&#8211;there is not an exception even if A FIRST invented it. (It&#8217;s true that if A invents first and B invents second, and if B files for a patent, then A later files for one, then A wins, in an interference battle or litigation; but if A never files but sells his product using a secret process, say, then after a year he is barred from filing a patent; but B is not.) So if A has a chemical plant using a trade secreted nozzle or mixing method to make some chemical for 50 years, and finally B independently invents the same technique and patents it, <em>he can shut down A even though A invented it first</em>. A general &#8220;prior use&#8221; defense is what is needed in these cases.</p>
<p>But the prior user defense and independent inventor defense are of limited value for a few reasons. 1. It&#8217;s hard to prove, esp. for later invention, that you invented it independently, without being influenced by B&#8217;s patent (which is public, and presumed to be &#8220;constructively known&#8221; by all); which is why some companies employ the &#8220;clean room&#8221; approach, but this is expensive and not usually feasible.</p>
<p>2. Once you know about B&#8217;s patent, you are now unable to invent it on your own, even if you &#8220;would have&#8221; in the absence of B&#8217;s patent. I.e., the independent inventor exception largely evaporates soon after a successful product (such as the iPhone&#8217;s multi-touch) because by then everyone is &#8220;contaminated&#8221; by it (no cleanroom possible any more).</p>
<p>3. If B invents and patents something, and if A also invents it (earlier or later than B), then this by itself ought to show that the invention was probably obvious (an idea whose time had come) and B&#8217;s patent should be invalid in general, not just a defense for A.</p>
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<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 02/11/2009 08:42 PM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Patents+%28General%29">Patents (General)</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000542"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=3&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000542">comments(1)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000502">On Print Runs and Pulping Books</a></h3>
<div class="post">I just came across an interesting thing I had not known about the effect of state meddling on publishing. See Wikipedia <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remaindered_book">here</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor_Power_Tool_Company#" class="broken_link">here</a>, noting:</p>
<blockquote><p>Thor Power Tool Company v. Commissioner, 439 U.S. 522 (1979) was a United States Supreme Court ruling which changed the way companies are allowed to depreciate their unsold inventory. Thor&#8217;s inventory was overestimated, and was written down to scrap, but it did not immediately scrap the items or sell them at reduced prices. Thor treated the write-down of excess inventory as an adjustment to closing inventory increasing the costs of goods sold and reducing tax due. Reducing tax liability may not have been the drive behind Thor management&#8217;s incentive to reduce inventory, but a welcome by-product; new management may have wanted to reduce the previous year&#8217;s profits so as to seemingly increase their performance in the following year.An unforeseen side effect of this decision was that it became less profitable for publishers to keep slowly but regularly selling books in print (their backlist). Some argue that this has made it harder for midlist authors to make a living because books tend to be remaindered or pulped and go out of print more quickly.</p>
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<p>In other words, a de facto change in the tax laws concerning inventories made it profitable to pulp unsold books earlier and this has had an adverse effect on authors who have slow but steady sales. As Levine noted to me, this ties into the whole issue of digital technology. On the one hand, digital technology makes copyright de facto obsolete, and it can make it harder for creators to recoup their investment because the market may be flooded with cheap copies quickly. This is what the pro-copyright forces argue (so therefore we need draconian copyright laws to overcome all this). The basic facts are true, but there are many facts that go the other direction. This is one of them&#8211;by selling electronic or print-on-demand copies directly to buyers authors don&#8217;t face &#8220;early liquidation&#8221; by publishers.</p>
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<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 02/05/2009 09:06 AM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Politics+and+IP">Politics and IP</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000502"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=3&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000502">comments(2)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000500">&#8220;Stealth Libertarianism&#8221; to Blame for Patent Law Flaws?</a></h3>
<div class="post">In <a href="http://www.doaj.org/doaj?func=abstract&amp;id=120185&amp;q1=libertarianism&amp;f1=all&amp;b1=and&amp;q2=&amp;f2=all&amp;recNo=5">The Reach of Patent Law and Institutional Competence</a>, one Richard Gold makes an odd argument that &#8220;stealth libertarianism&#8221; is to blame for some of the problems in patent law. He believes there has been a &#8220;clandestine shift in patent law&#8217;s normative base from a utilitarian justificatory rationale to a libertarian one; a trend the author refers to as &#8216;stealth libertarianism.&#8217;&#8221;Under the &#8220;libertarian&#8221; (sic) approach, it is assumed &#8220;that the social good is always attained by expanding patent rights in all domains,&#8221; but courts dress this &#8220;libertarian analysis in the commonly accepted language of utilitarianism. This surreptitious adoption of libertarian analysis is particularly disconcerting because it enables courts to avoid addressing the ethical and distributional effects of patent determinations.&#8221;</p>
<p>As far as I can tell from a quick read, Gold maintains that a utilitarian basis should be employed, instead of a &#8220;libertarian&#8221; one; that courts are incompetent to make these utilitarian determinations; and that if utilitarianism is correctly applied, patent law scope would not be expanded as much as it has been by courts applying a &#8220;stealth libertarian&#8221; rationale.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t figure out if this guy is an ally or not.</p>
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<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 02/04/2009 10:11 PM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Philosophy+of+IP">Philosophy of IP</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000500"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=3&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000500">comments(1)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000488">iEvil</a></h3>
<div class="post">In <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&amp;sid=amMfwhpucuak&amp;refer=home">Apple May Use ‘Nuclear Arsenal&#8217; to Delay Palm&#8217;s IPhone Rival</a>, Bloombert reports: &#8220;Apple Inc., usually on the defensive when it comes to intellectual-property lawsuits, is threatening to use its hoard of patents to quash iPhone competitors.&#8221;For shame, Apple, for shame. They appear to be suffering from the delusion pointed out by Boldrin &amp; Levine, as noted by Tucker in <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009334.asp">Seen and Unseen Costs of Patents</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>It is the most common thing in the world for a businessperson who use every market-oriented skill to get a product to market: a good product at a good price that becomes the market leader. At this point, and for some odd reason, the businessperson gets confused. He thinks that it his IP that is the key to his success and ends up fighting for it with all his might, even at his own expense.</p>
<p>Here is the statement by Boldrine and Levine: &#8221; &#8220;Being a monopolist&#8221; is, apparently, akin to going on drugs or joining some strange religious sect. It seems to lead to a complete loss of any sense of what profitable opportunities are and of how free markets function. Monopolists, apparently, can conceive of only one way of making money, that is bullying consumers and competitors to put up or shut up. Furthermore, it also appears to mean that past mistakes have to be repeated at a larger, and ever more egregious, scale.&#8221;</p>
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<p>(Cross-posted at <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009353.asp">Mises Blog</a>.)</div>
<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 02/01/2009 09:56 PM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Against+Monopoly">Against Monopoly</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000488"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=3&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000488">comments(0)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000471">FreeTalkLive on Tucker, IP, and Boldrin &amp; Levine</a></h3>
<div class="post">On <a href="http://media.libsyn.com/media/ftl/FTL2009-01-28.mp3">tonight&#8217;s FreeTalkLive</a> (from about 1:06:55 to 1:38:22, again from 1:51:52 and following) the hosts discuss and read Jeff Tucker&#8217;s entire article <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/tucker/tucker125.html">Does Innovation Require Property in Ideas?</a> on the air (Tucker&#8217;s article discusses Boldrin &amp; Levine&#8217;s <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/tucker/tucker125.html"><em>Against Intellectual Monopoly</em></a>). A very lively discussion ensues including&#8211;surprise!&#8211;a patent lawyer who calls in to meekly support patent law (and also some kind of limits on how much money doctors can spend on marketing&#8230; hunh?). (HT to <a href="http://www.snapitalism.com/">Manuel Lora</a>.)(<a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009330.asp">Cross-posted</a> on Mises Blog.)</div>
<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 01/28/2009 09:05 PM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Innovation">Innovation</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000471"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=3&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000471">comments(0)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000463">Newton&#8217;s Fig</a></h3>
<div class="post">Interesting blog musings on IP by Vincent McAffrey, in &#8220;<a href="http://vincentmccaffrey.com/2009/01/28/newtons-fig/">Newton&#8217;s Fig</a>.&#8221;I cannot tell whether he is anti-IP or not, but he seems to be leaning that way.</div>
<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 01/28/2009 01:18 PM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Is+IP+Property">Is IP Property</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000463"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=3&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000463">comments(5)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000458">PATENTING = INNOVATING</a></h3>
<div class="post">In <a href="http://www.patentbaristas.com/archives/2009/01/27/patent-law-global-economic-slowdown-edition/">Patent Law: Global Economic Slowdown Edition</a>, one patent practitioner comments:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;International patent filings under WIPO&#8217;s Patent Cooperation Treaty (PCT) <a href="http://www.wipo.int/pressroom/en/articles/2009/article_0002.html">grew by 2.4% in 2008, to nearly 164,000 1 applications</a>. While the rate of growth was modest, as compared to an average 9.3% rate of growth in the previous three years, the total number of applications for 2008 represents the highest number of applications received under the PCT in a single year. <strong>Continued use of the PCT</strong>, a cornerstone of the international patent system, <strong>indicates that companies recognize the importance of sustained investment in research, development and innovation</strong> to remain competitive even within challenging economic conditions.&#8221;</p>
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<p>Interesting patent-lawyer spin, in the bolded words&#8211;i.e., PATENTING = INNOVATING.</p>
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<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 01/28/2009 10:40 AM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Innovation">Innovation</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000458"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=3&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000458">comments(0)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000451">Dissecting Boldrin and Levine: An Alternate View of Intellectual Property</a></h3>
<div class="post">On <em>Strike The Root</em> one &#8220;John deLaubenfels&#8221; <a href="http://www.strike-the-root.com/91/delaubenfels/delaubenfels1.html">criticizes</a> us IP critics.I&#8217;ll comment on one argument here:</p>
<blockquote><p>Copies of an author&#8217;s work can be made virtually for free; therefore they aren&#8217;t &#8220;scarce&#8221;; therefore they have no value that anybody need respect. This line is not heavily stressed by B&amp;L, but it is popular among anti-IP&#8217;ers and was apparently originally conceived by their darling, Stephan Kinsella. Nonsense! The actual worth of a work can be calculated as the sum of what each person on earth would willingly pay for a copy, if it could be obtained in no other way. This figure may fairly be said to represent the potential value the author has brought to the world. Subtract the cost of making copies for all purchasers, and we arrive at a return the author may hope to approach in a just society, assuming he&#8217;s able to reach all potential buyers and is able to guess how much they&#8217;re willing to pay. Note that this second number goes UP, not down, as the cost of making copies decreases. An interesting question for anyone who buys into the Kinsella argument would be: consider a product which requires physical raw materials to produce. Would it be &#8220;not stealing&#8221; to break into a store, take one, and leave in exchange only the cost of the raw materials and labor needed to produce it? The idea is as absurd as Kinsella&#8217;s is for intellectual works.</p>
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<p>First, I have <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/003229.asp#comment-14134">stressed repeatedly</a> that property rights are rights in the physical integrity of a resource, not in its value. Libertarianism does not mandate that people &#8220;respect the value&#8221; of property. Only that they do not invade its borders&#8211;use it without the owner&#8217;s permission. So it is irrelevant whether a work, or copies of it, &#8220;have&#8221; a &#8220;value&#8221;. The question is: are patterns and information ownable things? Are they the type of things that can be, that ought to be, property? The answer to this question does not turn on whether people value the pattern or information or copies or not.</p>
<p>As for the question: consider a product which requires physical raw materials to produce. Would it be &#8220;not stealing&#8221; to break into a store, take one, and leave in exchange only the cost of the raw materials and labor needed to produce it?&#8221;</p>
<p>Property rights are rights to the physical integrity of owned scarce resources. So it&#8217;s stealing to take my product without my permission, since I own it. This is true whether or not the object &#8220;has value&#8221; or not; and it&#8217;s true whether or not the thief leaves me partial (or even complete) restitution.</p>
<p>This entire line of reasoning is confused.</p>
<p>(<a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009314.asp">Cross-posted</a> on Mises Blog.)</div>
<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 01/26/2009 10:57 AM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Is+IP+Property">Is IP Property</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000451"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=3&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000451">comments(0)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000437">Masnick on Innovation</a></h3>
<div class="post">A great <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009288.asp#comment-495349">comment</a> by Techdirt&#8217;s Mike Masnick that deserves to be highlighted on its own&#8211;Masnick just keeps getting better and better on IP issues:***</p>
<p>&#8220;Resources are allocated by prices that form in the market after exchanges of private property. If there is no private property, there are no exchanges.&#8221;</p>
<p>Shame that someone who claims to understand economics is so woefully wrong.</p>
<p>First off, yes, private property is a key element of a marketplace, but you have to first understand the purpose of private property. This is rather important, and often gets lost in the shuffle. The purpose is to allow for the efficient allocation of resources.</p>
<p>However, when a good is infinitely available, there is no question of the efficient allocation of that resource, because efficiency is easy: anyone who wants a *copy* can get it. This is not socialism, as you imply. It&#8217;s pure free market capitalism. Your mistake is confusing the &#8220;copy&#8221; with the original good. It&#8217;s a common mistake.</p>
<p>Thus, it makes little sense at all to apply property rights to infinitely available goods. In that case, all you are actually doing is making allocation INEFFICIENT by putting artificial and unnecessary limitations on things, and actually diminishing transactions, because the infinitely available works cannot be built upon to create new and valuable works.</p>
<p>So you have put the cart way before the horse here in focusing on the marketplace, rather than the efficient allocation of resources. We like markets for scarce goods because they make allocation efficient.</p>
<p>We can have a market for infinite goods, but since the supply is infinite, the price will get set at zero (this is just basic economics).</p>
<p>Now, the real reason given for IP rights is not about allocation of resources, but incentives to create (you seem to confuse these things in your comment). So, your question about &#8220;the calculation problem&#8221; is actually about incentives to create, which is separate from the issue you later brought up (the market for efficient allocation).</p>
<p>But, once again, here you seem to have a lack of understanding of the facts. There is tremendous evidence nearly across the board that there are significant and workable models to create plenty of new works (or new inventions) in the absence of IP protections. In fact, much of the evidence suggests that the end result would, in fact, be MORE works created, because so many creative and inventive works are actually built off of earlier works.</p>
<p>In other words, both creative and inventive works are an ongoing process of creation, and placing an unnecessary, inefficient and market limiting tollbooth at each stage of the process drastically slows down the incentives for creation.</p>
<p>So, let&#8217;s try starting again from scratch. Look at the difference between the allocation problem from the creation problem &#8212; and then look at alternative models and the research concerning how those alternative models do. Then, perhaps, you might want to tone down your false statements concerning &#8220;socialism&#8221; and maybe, just maybe, apologize to those you insulted with your own statements.</p>
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<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 01/23/2009 06:24 PM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Innovation">Innovation</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000437"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=3&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000437">comments(1)</a>]</p>
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<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000434">Copyright Debate Goes Mainstream: Lessig/Colbert &#8220;Remix&#8221; Interview</a></h3>
<div class="post">Funny interview with Stephen Colbert an Lawrence Lessig, discussing copyright policy and Lessig&#8217;s new book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Remix-Making-Commerce-Thrive-Economy/dp/1594201722"><em>Remix</em></a>.<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/IxwvIdr21Uw&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="344" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/IxwvIdr21Uw&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object></p>
<p>Lessig is not a perfect libertarian but is for reform at least. I suspect many of Colbert&#8217;s mainstream-ish arguments in defense of copyright are partly mocking the standard Republicanoid view on IP. See also the funny video <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvvhDngERXo">The Colbert Report ::: Remix feat Lawrence Lessig (Eclectic Method Mix)</a>&#8211;a &#8220;remix&#8221; made in &#8220;violation&#8221; of Colbert&#8217;s tongue-in-cheek warning not to (i.e., his invitation).</div>
<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 01/22/2009 08:33 PM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=IP+as+a+Joke">IP as a Joke</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000434"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=4&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000434">comments(1)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000405">Letter on Patents from an Engineer in the Trenches</a></h3>
<div class="post"><a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009244.asp#comment-493028">GREAT post</a> on patents and innovation posted on Mises blog in the comments:</p>
<blockquote><p>I just finished reading your article A Book that Changes Everything&#8230;. Great stuff! I wanted to send along my thoughts on the subject.First, I should confess that I work for a company that has received more patents than any other &#8211; for every single year &#8211; the last 15 years. Second confession: I co-own several of those IP patents (well, the company is the real owner &#8211; I&#8217;m just the &#8220;inventor&#8221; on some of them. I&#8217;m a software engineer.).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to avoid mentioning the company I work for (more corporate regulations), but given the clues you can figure it out fairly easily.</p>
<p>We are slightly different than some of the corporations you mention: &#8220;It is impossible to develop software without running into IP problems, and the largest players are living off IP and not innovation&#8221;</p>
<p>We do make great money off our patents (I&#8217;ll explain what I think is the real benefit though). However, we do innovate, and we make the vast majority of our revenue off of our products &#8211; because our product is superior. (Ok, I may be slight biased &#8211; but our customers tell us this too)</p>
<p>Anyway, I believe that the real benefit of patents for the company I work for, and other large software firms, is that we trade them &#8211; sort of like kids with baseball cards. That is, we&#8217;ll allow firms to use certain patents in exchange for the rights to some of theirs. As you can probably figure out, this is not a real option for start ups that do not have the IP portfolio to make this attractive.</p>
<p>We have a huge team of IP lawyers, a bonus structure that makes it attractive to try to patent any possible new inventions, and a management that uses your personal patent portfolio as a factor in determining who to promote. We&#8217;ve been told that they&#8217;ll patent anything new we come up with &#8211; even if it is unrelated to the business (i.e. I&#8217;ve seen them patent an exercise device).</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll often write papers on items that the business decides not to patent &#8211; just to show prior discovery should we be challenged by other corporations. We also get a bonus for this &#8211; just not as much.</p>
<p>From an employee standpoint, this is attractive. Hey &#8211; it&#8217;s a lot of extra money to us, and we are helping out our company. As an employee who happens to be a libertarian, I honestly have no issue with my company taking advantage of the silly IP laws.</p>
<p>That brings me back to the main issue at hand though: should we have IP laws?</p>
<p>Speaking from my own experience, corporations (such as the one I work for) spend a lot of money to innovate. However, I would &#8220;press that button&#8221; and get rid of IP law immediately, given the chance. I agree completely with the arguements made in the article &#8211; as such, I&#8217;ll just bring up a few other issues:</p>
<p>I think IP law is incredibly damaging to innovation and competition. In the case of software patents, moreso in that they take resources (primarily money which gets redirected to legal teams) from firms who are forced to research existing patens, and also defend themselves against IP lawsuits.</p>
<p>Many software patents are particularly silly. Many of these are issued for algorithms &#8211; the vast majority of the time, these algorithms are only available outside the company via patent! That is, when they are shipped externally, it is in a form that is not readable (object code). Sure &#8211; this can be reverse engineered. But for a particularly complex program or operating system, this in itself would be a colossal endeavor. Yet, a patent is issued for it &#8211; and the patent describes exactly what the algorithm does!</p>
<p>Another firm could look at the patent and use the invention. In most cases, it would be impossible to tell that they&#8217;ve &#8220;stolen&#8221; anything. Here they are counterproductive.</p>
<p>I should also mention the obvious &#8211; the corporation which holds the patent already has a huge advantage! They will ship a product with these innovations before any other corporation can ship its&#8217; product. Quite frankly it will generally be a significant period of time before another product can be shipped which contains these innovations &#8211; even if the innovation was immediately obvious and known. This will not generally be the case.</p>
<p>Then you have the patents for user interface &#8211; these are just silly. I&#8217;ve seen patents issued (granted, this was a long time ago) for using a particular color on a &#8220;dummy&#8221; terminal.</p>
<p>Anyway, I hope I do not sound like a hypocrit (because I hold IP patents). As I said, it is a part of my job. I also cannot fault my company for taking advantage of whatever silly laws are created. I simply view this as another case of the state interfering with the market, and the market adjusting to exploit the foolishness of the laws.</p>
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<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 01/16/2009 02:54 PM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Innovation">Innovation</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000405"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=4&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000405">comments(16)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000404">Hayek on Patents and Copyrights</a></h3>
<div class="post">From <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009247.asp">Mises Blog</a>, good quote from Hayek:</p>
<blockquote><p>From <a href="http://www.mises.org/store/Individualism-and-Economic-Order-P255.aspx">Individualism and Economic Order</a> (ironically under copyright), Chicago, 1948, pp. 113-14.</p>
<blockquote><p>Where the law of property is concerned, it is not difficult to see that the simple rules which are adequate to ordinary mobile &#8220;things&#8221; or &#8220;chattel&#8221; are not suitable for indefinite extension We need only turn to the problems which arise in connection with land, particularly with regard to urban land in modern large towns, in order to realize that a conception of property which is based on the assumption that the use of a particular item of property affects only the interests of its owner breaks down There can be no doubt that a good many, at least, of the problems with which the modern town planner is concerned are genuine problems with which governments or local authorities are bound to concern themselves. Unless we can provide some guidance in fields like this about what are legitimate or necessary government activities and what are its limits, we must not complain if our views are not taken seriously when we oppose other kinds of less justified &#8220;planning.&#8221;</p>
<p>The problem of the prevention of monopoly and the preservation of competition is raised much more acutely in certain other fields to which the concept of property has been extended only in recent times. I am thinking here of the extension of the concept of property to such rights and privileges as patents for inventions, copyright, trade-marks, and the like. It seems to me beyond doubt that in these fields a slavish application of the concept of property as it has been developed for material things has done a great deal to foster the growth of monopoly and that here drastic reforms may be required if competition is to be made to work. In the field of industrial patents in particular we shall have seriously to examine whether the award of a monopoly privilege is really the most appropriate and effective form of reward for the kind of risk-bearing which investment in scientific research involves.</p>
<p>Patents, in particular, are specially interesting from our point of view because they provide so clear an illustration of how it is necessary in all such instances not to apply a ready-made formula but to go back to the rationale of the market system and to decide for each class what the precise rights are to be which the government ought to protect. This is a task at least as much for economists as for lawyers. Perhaps it is not a waste of your time if I illustrate which have in mind by quoting a rather well-known decision in which an American judge argued that &#8220;as to the suggestion that competitors were excluded from the use of the patent we answer that such exclusion may be said to have been the very essence of the right conferred by the patent&#8221; and adds &#8220;as it is the privilege of any owner of property to use it or not to use it without any question of motive.&#8221; (Continental Bag Co. v. Eastetn Bag Co., 210 U.S. 405 (1909). It is this last statement which seems to me to be significant for the way in which a mechanical extension of the property concept by lawyers has done so much to create undesirable and harmful privilege.</p>
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<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 01/16/2009 02:53 PM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Against+Monopoly">Against Monopoly</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000404"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=4&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000404">comments(0)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000403">James Watt: Monopolist</a></h3>
<div class="post">From <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009245.asp">Mises Blog</a>, an excerpt from Boldrin/Levine&#8217;s blockbuster book:</p>
<blockquote><p><img src="http://mises.org/images/JamesWattMonopolist.jpg" alt="" height="150" align="right" />Was James Watt&#8217;s patent of the steam engine a crucial incentive needed to trigger his inventive genius, as the traditional history suggests? Or did his use of the legal system to inhibit competition set back the Industrial Revolution by a decade or two? Here is a case study&#8211;by the authors of a wonderful new work on patents and copyrights&#8211;in how &#8220;intellectual property rights&#8221; do grave damage to the market economy. <a href="http://mises.org/story/3280">FULL ARTICLE</a></p>
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<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 01/16/2009 02:50 PM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Against+Monopoly">Against Monopoly</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000403"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=4&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000403">comments(0)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000401">Mutualist Comments on IP</a></h3>
<div class="post">In <a href="http://citizensbriefingbook.change.gov/ideas/viewIdea.apexp?id=087800000004xQ3" class="broken_link">Easing the Transition to an Alternative Economy</a>, posted at the Citizen&#8217;s Briefing Book at Change.gov by &#8220;Mutualist&#8221; <a href="http://mutualist.blogspot.com/">Kevin Carson</a> (mentioned <a href="http://c4ss.org/content/113">here</a> at Center for a Stateless Society, and  <a href="http://mutualist.blogspot.com/2009/01/easing-transition-to-alternative.html">here</a> on Carson&#8217;s blog), Carson has a good critique of the damaging and distorting effects of IP. Now, he does mix it in with ideas I find questionable (see <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/004269.asp">1</a>, <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/008541.asp">2</a>, <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/008993.asp">3</a>), such as the leftist hostility to &#8220;bigness&#8221; and the corporate form of business, the penchant for &#8220;localism,&#8221; the notion that &#8220;road subsidies&#8221; somehow favor large companies (which basically, as many &#8220;vandarchists&#8221; seem to believe, makes them fair game for vandalism and worker appropriation since they do not &#8220;really&#8221; own their property), and the idea that we should &#8220;liminat[e] differential tax exemptions that favor firms engaged in centralized, large-scale, capital-intensive production&#8221; (this would just amount to raising taxes&#8211;now he does advocate making up for this by lowering overall taxes, but only enough to be &#8220;revenue neutral,&#8221; which, by my math, does not prevent net taxes from being raised on some companies; a good libertarian opposes all tax increases)&#8211;so I bold the parts below that I reall like:</p>
<blockquote><p>If we want to replace the present centralized economy of waste production and planned obsolescence, it&#8217;s an inescapable fact that a great deal of excess manufacturing capacity cannot be saved. In my opinion it&#8217;s a mistake to try to prop it up through expedients like the Detroit bailout.Corporate capitalism has been plagued from its late-19th century beginnings with chronic crises of overaccumulation and overproduction, which would probably have destroyed it in the Great Depression (despite the New Deal) had WWII not postponed the crisis for a generation by helpfully blowing up most of the plant and equipment in the world outside the U.S. and creating a permanent war economy for absorbing surplus output. But Europe and Japan rebuilt their industrial capital by 1970, and since then the chronic crises have been back with a vengeance. Before the current downturn, America&#8217;s overbuilt industry couldn&#8217;t dispose of its full output running at capacity, even with everybody tapping into home equity and maxing out their credit cards to replace everything they owned every five years. And we&#8217;ll never see those levels again. So there&#8217;s no escaping the fact that much of our plant and equipment, in a few years, will be rust.</p>
<p>The goal should be a shift from the present system of overaccumulated, centralized, oligopoly industry, and its business model of planned obsolescence and &#8220;push&#8221; distribution, to a decentralized economy of small-scale manufacturing for local markets. This means, among other things, a switch from capital-intensive production methods based on product-specific machinery, to production with small-scale, general purpose machinery. It means, in place of the old Sloanist production model, something like the present-day economy of Italy&#8217;s Emilia-Romagna region: networked small manufacturers producing for the local market, with a high degree of cooperative ownership. Such an economy, based on a &#8220;pull&#8221; distribution model with production geared to demand on a just-in-time basis, will be insulated from the boom-bust cycles of the old national &#8220;push&#8221; economies. And we need a new model of user-friendly, modular product design aimed at cheap and easy repairability and recycling.</p>
<p>Your main focus, in my opinion, should be to ease the transition by eliminating present policies (market-distorting subsidies, privileges, and cartelizing regulations) that impede it and protect the old economy from the new one.</p>
<p>This means, for one thing, eliminating differential tax exemptions that favor firms engaged in centralized, large-scale, capital-intensive production: e.g., the depreciation allowance, the R&amp;D credit, the deductability of interest on corporate debt, and the exemption of stock transactions involved in mergers and acquisitions from capital gains tax). Then lower the corporate income tax enough to be revenue-neutral.</p>
<p>It means, especially, eliminating the biggest subsidy to economic centralization, and to artificially large market area and firm size: i.e., subsidies to long-distance transportation. The Interstate should be funded entirely by weight-based user fees on trucking, which causes virtually all of the roadbed damage. All subsidies to new airports or to expanding old ones should be eliminated, including all federal guarantees of local bond issues.</p>
<p><strong>Perhaps most important of all, it requires radically scaling back the present strong &#8220;intellectual property&#8221; regime. IP (through patent pooling and exchange, monopolies on current production technologies, etc.) is probably the single most powerful cartelizing force, which enables each industry to be concentrated in the hands of a few players. It impedes the transfer of skills and new technology from the old manufacturing dinosaurs to the kinds of small, local producers we need. It also serves as a powerful bulwark to planned obsolescence, imposing legal restrictions on the manufacture of cheap generic replacement parts. </strong></p>
<p><strong>Scaling back IP law (a good start would be repealing the DMCA, the WIPO Copyright Treaty, and the Uruguay Round&#8217;s TRIPS accord) would eliminate the barriers to the diffusion of skill and technology that currently prop up the old corporate dinosaurs of the software and entertainment industries, and facilitate their replacement by networked production on an open source model. Please cut loose the MPAA, RIAA, and Bill Gates, and do so yesterday! </strong></p>
<p>Finally, we need to eliminate all subsidies to large-scale agribusiness. The result will be a flourishing sector of community-supported agriculture, replacing the old agribusiness dinosaurs as fast as new ground can be cultivated.</p>
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<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 01/15/2009 09:35 PM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Innovation">Innovation</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000401"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=4&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000401">comments(1)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000396">Copyright is very sticky!</a></h3>
<div class="post">Often we opponents of socialistic, legislatively-created, utilitarian-based, property-redistributing, artificial, arbitrary, inconsistent, irrational, innovation-hampering, monopolistic, anti-competitive, and wealth-destroying intellectual property laws are accused of hypocrisy when we &#8220;copyright&#8221; our articles and books.I&#8217;ve pointed out to such people innumerable times, to little avail, that copyright is a noun, not a verb&#8211;that you don&#8217;t &#8220;copyright&#8221; something&#8211;you <em>have</em> a copyright in your original works of authorship as soon as you write them, automatically, courtesy of federal law. No copyright notice is required. No copyright registration is required. You have the right, whether you like it or not.</p>
<p>Well, then, why don&#8217;t you just &#8220;make it public domain,&#8221; some then, a bit unreflectively, retort. The problem is, there is no clear and good way to do this.</p>
<p>If you use a <a href="http://creativecommons.org/about/licenses">Creative Commons license</a>, you are actually employing the copyright the state grants you&#8211;you are putting conditions or limitations on what others may do with your works. Even if you use the least restrictive type, &#8220;Attribution,&#8221; you are requiring others to do something to avoid being liable for copyright infringement.</p>
<p>Now, some have tried to find ways to let you abandon your copyright, or &#8220;dedicate&#8221; it to &#8220;the public.&#8221; Creative Commons has a proposed &#8220;<a href="http://creativecommons.org/license/publicdomain-2">Public Domain Dedication</a>&#8220;, but: (a) it doesn&#8217;t seem easy, at least for the typical user; and (b) there appear to be doubts as to whether it would work&#8211;and until it&#8217;s clear that it does, it&#8217;s worse than a CC license, since publishers would be afraid to rely on it. It is possible that a type of estoppel would apply, preventing the &#8220;dedicator&#8221; from complaining if someone else relied on his &#8220;dedication&#8221; to his detriment; but there is &#8220;a quirk of U.S. copyright law which grants the author of a work the right to cancel &#8216;the exclusive or nonexclusive grant of a transfer or license of copyright or of any right under a copyright&#8221; thirty-five years later, unless the work was originally a work for hire.&#8217;&#8221; So sayeth <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain#Section_203_of_the_Copyright_Act">Wikipedia</a>; and it outlines other deficiencies of the &#8220;public domain dedication.&#8221;</p>
<p>Creative Commons seems to recognize the potential problems with their attempt to set up a &#8220;public domain dedication&#8221;&#8211; first, <a href="http://creativecommons.org/license/publicdomain-2">they say</a>, &#8220;Please note that the Public Domain Dedication may not be valid outside of the United States.&#8221; Well, that&#8217;s no good. We do live in a global, um, world. Last time I checked, the Internet was available even outside America! Second, I had to google their site to even find it&#8211;it&#8217;s not even listed in their <a href="http://creativecommons.org/about/licenses">Licenses page</a>, or in their <a href="http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FFAQ">FAQ</a>. They provide this method with disclaimers and no guarantees, and they bury it on their site. Hmm, tells you something.</p>
<p>So, what&#8217;s a libertarian to do? I tend to think the CC 3.0 Attribution license is the most libertarian&#8211;it only requires you to say who wrote it&#8211;but most people would do this anyway, so that&#8217;s not a huge imposition. The &#8220;non-commercial&#8221; ones prevent people from using it &#8220;for profit&#8221;&#8211;this is still a use of copyright to force people not to publish. And the &#8220;Attribution Share Alike&#8221; seeks to use one&#8217;s copyright threat to force others to use this license too.</p>
<p>(For example, suppose you have a deal with a publisher, and you want to use a CC share-alike licensed work in your book. But the publisher you are using refuses to grant a &#8220;share alike&#8221; license. So now, you can&#8217;t use the CC licensed work. I.e., if you publish your paper with a CC attribution license, the other guy can use it in his book. But if you do a share alike one, he can&#8217;t. He&#8217;s prevented by your copyright assertion threat.)</p>
<p>The d*mned government imposes this right on us and does not even provide an easy way to opt out of it or get rid of it. Ridiculous.</p>
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<p>Update: In my comments to Roderick Long&#8217;s post <a href="http://aaeblog.com/2009/01/22/steal-this-journal/">Steal This Journal!</a>, I noted:</p>
<blockquote><p>Roderick, If I’m not mistaken, “<a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyleft">copyleft</a>” is similar to the Creative Commons “<a rel="nofollow" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/">share alike</a>” license. <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.libertarianpapers.org/"><em>Libertarian Papers</em></a>, however, uses the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/">Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 License</a>.  After thinking about this, it <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000396">seems to me</a> that the “Attribution” license is more libertarian than “Share-Alike” (or copyleft).</p>
<p>Now the new “<a rel="nofollow" href="http://creativecommons.org/about/cc0">CCO</a>“, or “No Rights Reserved,” attempt to make one’s work “public domain” seems the most libertarian of all, but its efficacy looks doubtful to me, and it’s still embryonic as far as I can tell.</p>
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<p>In response to Charles Johnson&#8217;s (Rad Geek) suggestion that Attribution-Share-Alike (a &#8220;viral&#8221; type of copyright license, a.k.a. &#8220;copyleft&#8221;) might be preferable or acceptable from a libertarian perspective, I replied:</p>
<blockquote><p>Rad, I see the argument, but I think the best policy is just to free it up. It’s a bit too paternalistic, rude, untrusting, to force others to do it like you do, to assume they’ll “abuse” their power. And, it might stop the work from being re-published. We want our libertarian ideas spread far and wide. I want an editor of a book considering reprinting one of our pieces to see no obstacles. A “viral share-alike” provision could be. Let ideas be free.</p>
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<p>(<a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009240.asp">Cross-posted</a> at Mises Blog.)</div>
<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 01/14/2009 05:12 PM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=IP+as+a+Joke">IP as a Joke</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000396"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=4&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000396">comments(13)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000392">Government Accountants Give Patent Office Award!</a></h3>
<div class="post"><a href="http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/annual/2008/par_03.html"><img src="http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/annual/2008/images/par_03a.jpg" alt="" width="350" align="right" /></a>The <a href="http://www.agacgfm.org/about/history50years.aspx">Association of Government Accountants</a> (formerly the &#8220;Federal Government Accountants Association&#8221;) has awarded the US Patent and Trademark Office its &#8220;Fiscal Year 2007 Performance and Accountability Report Award&#8221; (which looks oddly similar to the USPTO&#8217;s own <a href="http://www.knoxpatents.com/LettersPatent.html">&#8220;red ribbon&#8221; patent grant</a>) one of <a href="http://aga.typepad.com/aga/2008/06/best-practices.html" class="broken_link">17 federal agencies to get this award that year</a>.Not only does the USPTO prepare &#8220;a well structured, logically organized and easy-to-navigate report&#8221; it&#8217;s very &#8220;productive&#8221; too. As it boasts <a href="http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/annual/2008/par_02.html">on its website</a>,</p>
<blockquote><p>Highlights of USPTO accomplishments for the past year include &#8230; <strong>Increased patent production</strong> by an additional 14 percent over 2007 by examining 448,003 applications <strong>the highest number in our history</strong>. <strong>Production has increased by 38.6 percent over the past four years</strong>, compared to a 21.3 percent increase in application filings during the same period.</p>
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<p>It&#8217;s sobering to think how much worse off the US would be in this recession without all this productivity.</p>
<p>For some more interesting patent statistics, see the <a href="http://www.wipo.int/ipstats/en/statistics/patents/wipo_pub_931.html">World Patent Report: A Statistical Review (2008)</a> for example, as of about 2006, there were about <strong>two million</strong> patent applications filed per years worldwide; about 750,000 patents issued (granted) every year; and about 6.1 million patents in force around the world.</p>
<p>(<a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009219.asp">cross-posted</a> at Mises.org)</div>
<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 01/11/2009 08:40 AM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Patents+%28General%29">Patents (General)</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000392"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=4&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000392">comments(10)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000386">Why People Don&#8217;t Believe In Paying For Music. Hint: Its All About Deflation.</a></h3>
<div class="post">Interest <a href="http://www.squawkingtech.com/2009/01/why-people-dont-believe-in-paying-for-music-hint-its-all-about-deflation/" class="broken_link">post</a> on Squawking Tech&#8211;proposes that because of natural (price) deflation,</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;With the exception of land and human time, in all areas of society we have been conditioned to expect more for less over time. Yet until just a few years ago, the music industry was increasingly charging more, for the same product. And they were able to do this because copyright law gives them the ability to set prices like a legal monopoly. &#8230; When people in aggregate are asked to pay far more than what they think something should cost, they start looking for alternatives. In this case, the alternative comes in the form of P2P technology.&#8221;</p>
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<p>Intriguing argument: that the failure of music to fall in price along with other technology-related goods is evidence of the pernicious effect of copyright.</p>
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<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 01/07/2009 09:19 PM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Copyright">Copyright</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000386"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=4&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000386">comments(2)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000368">Copyright in Hitler&#8217;s Globe</a></h3>
<div class="post"><img src="http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/56231/original.jpg" alt="Barsamian with Hitler's Globe" width="200" align="right" /><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/02/tom-cruise-may-face-legal_n_154748.html">Tom Cruise May Face Legal Action Over Hitler Globe</a> reports that the collector who bought the famous &#8220;Hitler&#8217;s globe&#8221; may sue for use of a likeness of the globe in Cruise&#8217;s recent film <em>Valkyrie</em>, &#8220;the thriller about a real-life plot to assassinate Hitler.&#8221; The article reports that in &#8220;2007, Pritikin paid $100,000 for the globe and had its likeness copyrighted to keep it from being used in propaganda by sick neo-Nazi groups.&#8221; Whew, what a relief!(<a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/024671.html">Cross-posted</a> at LewRockwell.com.)</div>
<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 01/02/2009 08:06 AM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=IP+as+a+Joke">IP as a Joke</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000368"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=4&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000368">comments(4)</a>]</p>
<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000348">The Limits of Utilitarian Reasoning&#8211;The Case of Patents</a></h3>
<div class="post">It can of course be useful to point out harmful consequences of various policies, if only to engage advocates of same on their own turf. Thus in <a href="http://www.mises.org/story/1763">There&#8217;s No Such Thing as a Free Patent</a> I point out that those who claim the benefits of patents outweigh the costs never seem to tally up these figures and give us the net. And indeed, whenever anyone ties to do this, they usually conclude that the patent system does more harm than good. For example, Boldrin and Levine&#8217;s <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=3&amp;author=631"><em>Against Monopoly</em></a>, Bessen &amp; Muerer&#8217;s <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000101">work</a>, Julio Cole&#8217;s <a href="../ip/">Patents and Copyrights: Do the Benefits Exceed the Costs?</a>, and so on (see my post, <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/007223.asp">What Are the Costs of the Patent System?</a>).And yet, there are severe drawbacks to relying exclusively on the utilitarian approach, as I explained in my <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=868">Against Intellectual Property</a>. We need to have principled, moral reasons that can cut through the fog of inconclusive utilitarian back-and-forth. Case in point is Rosemarie Ziedonis&#8217;s <a href="http://webuser.bus.umich.edu/rzied/research.html#apparentf" class="broken_link">reply</a> to Bessen &amp; Muerer&#8217;s <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/Bessen%20&amp;%20Muerer%27s%20%3Ca%20href=" class="broken_link">On the Apparent Failure of Patents</a>. In her civil and reasonable reply, she argues that Bessen &amp; Muerer provide</p>
<blockquote><p>little basis for concluding (as the authors assert) that public firms outside the chemical and pharmaceutical industries would be &#8220;better off&#8221; if patents did not exist. Public firms benefit from the patent system in numerous ways that are not captured by Bessen and Meurer&#8217;s &#8220;net benefits&#8221; calculations, including through information revealed during the patenting process and through growth opportunities provided by startups. More generally, the authors are unable to observe the innovative productivity or financial performance of public firms in an alternative, nonpatent regime.&#8221;</p>
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<p>What can a utilitarian say when a critic simply replies, &#8220;but there are other benefits you are not capturing&#8221;? The strongest counter, it seems to me, is to note that the burden of proof is on the proponent of a utilitarian argument favoring a state regulation, but how do utilitarians ever know if they&#8217;ve taken all costs, and all benefits, into account? That&#8217;s why a principled, property-rights argument is crucial.</p>
<p>A more complete excerpt of Ziedonis&#8217;s comments follows:</p>
<blockquote><p>A second problem with Bessen and Meurer&#8217;s &#8220;better off&#8221; assertion is its implicit assumption that the private value firms reap from owning patents is equivalent to the private value those firms derive from the patent <em>system</em>. Here, it is important to understand what was (and was not) included in Bessen and Meurer&#8217;s statistics. While the authors&#8217; &#8220;net benefits&#8221; calculations allowed public firms to be <em>harmed</em> by patents owned by outsiders through encounters of infringement lawsuits, they did not allow firms to reap <em>benefits</em> from the activities of others. Recall that only the value captured from a firm&#8217;s own portfolio was captured in the authors&#8217; calculations. There are several ways in which public firms reap indirect benefits from the patent system. One is through information revealed during the patenting process (i.e., &#8220;spillovers&#8221;). In addition to enticing investment through the lure of future profits (the &#8220;reward theory&#8221; of focal attention in Bessen and Meurer&#8217;s article), the patent system also aims to foster innovation through the disclosure of information about new inventions (in detailed drawings and descriptions contained in published patent documents) that otherwise might be held secret or be more difficult for outsiders to unravel. &#8230;</p>
<p>Although the evidence generated from Bessen and Meurer&#8217;s analysis is alarming, it provides little basis for concluding (as the authors assert) that public firms outside the chemical and pharmaceutical industries would be &#8220;better off&#8221; if patents did not exist. Public firms benefit from the patent system in numerous ways that are not captured by Bessen and Meurer&#8217;s &#8220;net benefits&#8221; calculations, including through information revealed during the patenting process and through growth opportunities provided by startups. More generally, the authors are unable to observe the innovative productivity or financial performance of public firms in an alternative, nonpatent regime. Would opportunities to &#8220;outsource&#8221; R&amp;D to more efficient performers or to profit from entrepreneurial-firm acquisitions be deleteriously affected? It is highly unlikely, of course, that the U.S. patent system will be abolished. Nonetheless, when assessing the current system&#8217;s performance, these indirect effects of patents are important to consider.</p>
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<p class="postinfo">[Posted at 12/20/2008 05:30 AM by <a href="mailto:%20nskinsella@gmail.com"><strong>Stephan Kinsella</strong></a> on <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=0&amp;topic=Innovation">Innovation</a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000348"><img src="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/images/permalink.gif" border="none" alt="" /></a> <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?limit=10&amp;chunk=4&amp;author=631&amp;perm=593056000000000348">comments(2)</a>]</p>
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<h3 class="headline"><a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000000265">Patent Attorneys Asserting Their Own Patents</a></h3>
<div class="post">Sometimes against their own former clients.As a followup to <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/008412.asp">&#8220;Patent Hawk&#8221; Sues Microsoft, Former Client, for Patent Infringement</a> (Against Monopoly <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=997">cross-post</a>), see the insightful Law.com article by the tenacious  Joe Mullin, <a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202424282231">Some IP Attorneys Look to Make Their Mark as Patent-Holders</a>, as well as his blog posts <a href="http://thepriorart.typepad.com/the_prior_art/2008/12/gary-odom-sues-microsoft.html">&#8220;Patent Hawk&#8221; lawsuit was an inside job, says Microsoft</a> and <a href="http://thepriorart.typepad.com/the_prior_art/2008/11/zilka-kotab-aloft-media.html">Zilka &amp; Kotab, a.k.a. Aloft Media, file patent lawsuit against Google&#8217;s Chrome browser; the latest of many.</a></p>
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