In an email discussion list, one of the members had become convinced of the “controlled demolition” theory of 9/11 (which I consider to be completely nutball), after watching a 2 hour video by Richard Gage. He edited it down to a 22 minute version (and also a 12 minute version) for easier viewing.
Another member of our list, David Christy, watched it and replied as follows (he gave me permission to post this):
Okay, i finally took the time to watch the 22 minute summary clip.
Not only has it failed to convince me, but as a physics major for 3 years before I decided to drop it for math and computer science, it was clear that these people were full of crap, and that makes me f*cking mad.
1st, the steel would not need to melt to collapse the building, and they know it. Steel loses structural integrity long before it reaches the melting point, and considering that most buildings like this are built to use the minimum amount of steel necessary, it actually bolsters the case for collapse.
2nd, all the buildings in the demolition “examples” were steel re-enforced concrete. The WTC buildings were an exo-skeleton, and only an imbicile wouldn’t know the difference. There was absolutely no re-enforcing aspect about the concrete in that building it in the slightest. One would expect all the non structural concrete to fall apart and it did. One would expect massive dust clouds and they happened.
3rd, the fire would have weakened the building enough to collapse, but no-one ever said that the fire itself “caused the explosion outward”. Those assholes refuted an argument that was never even made. The collapse was more than enough to push crap outward.
4th, the weakening would have caused the upper part of the building to push out the exo-skeleton, causing it to break away with insane force and for the floors to fall as quickly as they did .. which would also explain the popping.
5th, the testimonials were bullsh*t, and mean nothing.
6th, sulfer is very common in nature and also in many forms of insulation, it would have been expected to be found at the site.
7th, another name for “iron oxide” is RUST – when you have a mega steel building with an exo-skeleton, rust will likely be everywhere. Why didn’t those assholes just call it f*cking RUST.
8th, thermite is commonly used in welding to bind steel beams. Any thoughtful asshole would know that, and would expect fragments and traces to be found in the way that they were almost everywhere on the structural material.
9th, the burn temperatures of diesel were more than enough to burn people to charcoal, and the collapse more then enough to expell bone fragments everywhere, why in the f*ck did they treat it like such a mystery.
In sum, these people are either full of sh*t and they know it, or are too incompetent to have an expert opinion. It really pisses me off that they would f*ck with peoples lives where they have no business f*cking with them. If they want to make a compelling argument, they need to do a f*ck of a lot better than that!!!!!
The truther guy responded: “Wow, I commend you for watching the video. Now that you’ve seen the evidence, we can discuss it. Specifically, the thermite. Your explanation does not account for why there were unreacted thermite chips in the dust.”
Actually, it does. Have you ever seen the tack welding where it spews sparks everywhere. I would expect any welding site to have occasional loose fragments.
If they found c4 traces, and could prove it, it might have convinced me, but this is just bullsh*tting and especially not compelling.
And here is a 1 minute video…., this thermite techique may not have been used in wtc, but it still makes the point. fragments and scaring. the demolition argument is NOT COMPELLING.
Oh, btw, technically–people won’t be burned to charcoal, but it would have been more than enough to burn off all the flesh and probably make the bones brittle.
Most the buildings and their references seemed to be concrete reinforced, ones, not necessairly “all” of them, I didn’t super zone-in, but it was still clear that they were talking apples to oranges and bullsh*t.