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Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 243.
From my recent appearance on the Libertarian Christians podcast, discussing (what else) IP.
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About your comments on positive and negative rights at around 14:30. You said just before that all rights are property rights, rights to control scarce goods. Wouldn’t it then make sense that both positive rights or negative rights can arise and can be legitimate (from the point of view of libertarianism) if they arise contractually or as a consequence of a prior wrongdoing which entitles some person to restitution from the wrongdoer?
I don’t even know if the concept of negative and positive rights is actually of much value. I think it has come about from muddled thinking.
Copious amounts of water having flowed under the bridge…
I have perhaps moved closer to your position that the Constitution is of dubious merit. I can now appreciate that “That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men” is a non-sequitur.
It is more a case of “To institute governments among Men, we promise to secure their rights” and as soon as that as been achieved “To simultaneously moderate technology and culture, whilst extracting useful work from the inhabitants, we annul some of their liberties that we may sell back to them”.
In other words, patent and copyright are decrees of the highest order and, being recognised at the outset as a priori illiberal, are unassailable by mere libertarian argument. Their abolition would be entertained only upon the arrival of a mechanism that offered superior technological/cultural control and labour extraction.
But then, if Madison could now enlighten you, the timescales pertaining to these matters render all argument moot.